Thanks for this! On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 8:30 AM 'Nidia Navarro' via MuseumPests < [email protected]> wrote:
> Thank you all for the replies! > > > > Jacob thanks for sharing that! Just to add to that: here’s an article > about the use of oil to free wildlife from the traps. The recommendation is > still that use that as a last resource if we are not able to take the > trapped animal to a wild life center. There is a mention about the > difficulties for animals to survive if released still covered in oil: > > > > How to help an animal caught in a glue trap | Humane World for Animals > <https://www.humaneworld.org/us/en/resources/how-help-animal-caught-glue-trap> > > > > We got some ideas to simplify those boxes still using the fish farming > net, I’ll share the prototype once we make it. > > > > Thanks Fran! that is the plan until we hear about substitutions. We have > had mice, bats and lizards in all kind of locations, outside corridors, big > open rooms, small very interior closets… thanks for the advice, we’ll work > on review those locations. > > > > Nidia > > > > *From:* 'Ritchie, Fran E' via MuseumPests <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, September 26, 2025 4:57 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [PestList] RE: Moving away from glue traps > > > > Nidia, are you noticing this on traps in interior rooms, or is it mostly > happening on bottom floor or near exterior doors of Biltmore House? I’ve > mostly seen vertebrates on traps that are adjacent to exterior doors. Maybe > you don’t need to outfit > > Nidia, are you noticing this on traps in interior rooms, or is it mostly > happening on bottom floor or near exterior doors of Biltmore House? I’ve > mostly seen vertebrates on traps that are adjacent to exterior doors. Maybe > you don’t need to outfit all 400 traps, but focus on the ones that are most > likely to catch vertebrates? I know that you have several exterior doors > and have to keep windows open, so it’s still a lot of work, even if you > narrowed down. If you’re catching a lot by particular doors – maybe just > don’t have traps by those doors. Place the sticky traps farther in the > room. Take note of what materials in that space are most likely to be eaten > by proteinaceous or wooden boring insects, then do visual inspections of > those pieces when you’re changing out sticky traps. The amount of time it > takes to visually inspect will probably be comparable to the amount of time > it would’ve taken to prepare then then ID a sticky trap in that spot. > > > > I know of two NPS sites that purchased these: Trapper (Protecta) Pest > Monitors > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.domyown.com/trapper-protecta-pest-monitors-case-12-units-p-434.html?msockid=3277615a61986f4d39c4774e608a6e58__;!!AICBUC8eM8hH!n6A95gvayYTq4QEaw6UmY-iVnmqttmnoc4-nkPvGepgTYdLe81ytLKgJkfWWwGAaiwovbSh4YNfAF_H_ReIah2U$> > > In the image it looks like a big opening, but when you place the lid on, > it actually doesn’t line up as a large opening. It is higher upfront cost > for the cases, but then just replacing the sticky inserts monthly. The link > above is just one source, but you can also purchase them from Amazon. > > > > Just a few quick thoughts! Good luck! > > Fran > > > > > > *Fran Ritchie, Conservator (Objects)* > > she/her > > Harpers Ferry Center > > *[email protected]* <[email protected]> > > > > *American Institute for Conservation Professional Associate > (peer-reviewed)* > > > > NPS Conserve O Grams - Museums & Collections (U.S. National Park Service) > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.nps.gov/subjects/museums/conserve-o-grams.htm__;!!AICBUC8eM8hH!n6A95gvayYTq4QEaw6UmY-iVnmqttmnoc4-nkPvGepgTYdLe81ytLKgJkfWWwGAaiwovbSh4YNfAF_H_xTsOnW8$> > > > > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf > Of *Mikael Fox > *Sent:* Friday, September 26, 2025 4:36 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [PestList] RE: Moving away from glue traps > > > > > > * This email has been received from outside of DOI - Use caution before > clicking on links, opening attachments, or responding. * > > > > Following this- we haven't had any issues with rodents in our building, > and we've been freeing geckos using the vegetable oil trick Jacob > mentioned, but I expect we're going to start seeing more soon. Landscaping > at the side of our building tore down a bunch of trees and greenery, and I > suspect rodents living in that will be fleeing into our building to find > shelter. I love Nidia's technique, but you're right, that is a lot of work. > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 10:21 AM 'Jacob Yanes' via MuseumPests < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I’d also love to hear of a glue trap alternative, as they are > nightmarishly cruel. Hopefully everyone is aware that you can free mice > and lizards from glue traps with vegetable oil—just gently work it around > the animal with swabs, and the creature’s own wriggling will bring the oil > underneath it. Wear gloves and take care not to cover the animal’s nose > or mouth, and be careful around tiny limbs. It can be a slow process. I > keep a syringe of vegetable oil with me on IPM checks. > > > > *Jacob Yanes* (he/him/any) > > Conservation Technician > The Huntington > > T: 626-544-0521 | E: [email protected] > > 1151 Oxford Rd, San Marino, CA 91108 > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.google.com/maps/search/1151*Oxford*Rd,*San*Marino,*CA*91108?entry=gmail&source=g__;KysrKysr!!AICBUC8eM8hH!n6A95gvayYTq4QEaw6UmY-iVnmqttmnoc4-nkPvGepgTYdLe81ytLKgJkfWWwGAaiwovbSh4YNfAF_H_Oja2Kv0$> > > [image: The Huntington Logo.png] > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.huntington.org/__;!!AICBUC8eM8hH!n6A95gvayYTq4QEaw6UmY-iVnmqttmnoc4-nkPvGepgTYdLe81ytLKgJkfWWwGAaiwovbSh4YNfAF_H_E91f2T0$> > > The Huntington exists on the ancestral lands of the Gabrielino -Tongva > and Kizh Nation peoples who continue to call this region home. The > Huntington respectfully acknowledges these Indigenous peoples as the > traditional caretakers of this landscape, as the direct descendants of the > first people. The Huntington recognizes their continued presence and is > grateful to have the opportunity to work and learn on this land. > > > > *From:* 'Nidia Navarro' via MuseumPests <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, September 26, 2025 12:53 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [PestList] Moving away from glue traps > > > > Dear colleagues, > > > > Does anyone have information about substitutions for glue traps on IPM? We > have almost 400 glue traps in a historic house to monitor pest activity and > very often we trap mice of local species of lizards so we want to find an > alternative so it doesn’t happen again. > > > > I’d be particularly interested on connecting with colleagues working in > England since the glue traps have been banned there due to their cruelty. > > > > This year we tested placing one glue trap inside a wooden box with a > Polyethylene net (sourced from the fishing > https://www.industrialnetting.com/cage-netting.html > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.industrialnetting.com/cage-netting.html__;!!AICBUC8eM8hH!n6A95gvayYTq4QEaw6UmY-iVnmqttmnoc4-nkPvGepgTYdLe81ytLKgJkfWWwGAaiwovbSh4YNfAF_H_T_z8_1c$> > ). See the attached picture. After 3 months we found it full of insects , > so it seems to work. 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