A FTIR was use in the research to determine when insects species die  at 
what ppm, temperature and in what time frame. Test were done on  actual Art 
objects. Also about 25% of time was added as protection. Another  protection 
to bring the ppm range lower than needed. In some cases  you can see the 
insect after treatment in other cases like European powder  post beetle you may 
not. 
 
Bill
 
 
In a message dated 10/5/2009 10:37:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

You`re  right Sharlane. Gialdi vs Basset is the useless discussion. Pardon 
me, please.   


By the way, how do you measure anoxia treatments` effectiveness? Can you  
find the bugs you`ve killed but can`t be seen?


Luis Pinho

> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:28:19 -0400
>  Subject: Re: R: Re: RE R: RE: [pestlist] Moving Clean
> From:  [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> 
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> 
> I AM interested in this  discussion, and feel it is pertinent to the
> list as there are not too  many suppliers of the type of equipment used
> for this process, and  those considering using it or who already have
> it want to know the  facts concerning its effectiveness (since this has
> been called into  question.)
> 
> What do you and others feel IS the appropriate  time and place for this
> type of question if not a public list-serve  specifically about
> treatments for eradicating/preventing infestations  of pests?
> 
> When a particular discussion is not useful to me  (and there are many),
> I just do not read it and then delete any with  the same thread as soon
> they appear in my e-mail.
> 
>  Sharlane Gubkin
> 
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Luís Pinho  <[email protected]> wrote:
> > As this mailing list is not a  public market, a court or something 
similar,
> > it would be great to  leave the VELOXY questions to another time and 
place..
> >
>  > I'm not interested in this useless discussion.
> >
> >  Luís Pinho
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Mon,  5 Oct 2009 15:05:57 +0200
> >> From: [email protected]
>  >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: R: Re: RE R:  RE: [pestlist] Moving Clean
> >>
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>  >>
> >>
> >> Dear friends of PESTLIST,
>  >> I red from home (because a flue) the
> >> astonishing  message of Dr. Basset concerning Veloxy; I will write as
> >> soon  as possible a message to everybody of you showing the references
>  >> of the equipment that was developed , certified and that is
>  >> successfully applied in the list of Conservation Institutes that are  
in
> >> our references at the web site :  www.rgi-genova.com.
> >> In my next message
> >> I  will list the persons that can be contacted to know exactly if 
VELOXY
>  >> had problems in their Conservation Institues.
> >> As the  matter of the
> >> facts, Dr. Basset has not used Veloxy, until  now, because it was
> >> crashed during the transport from Italy  to France and for this reason,
> >> could not jet be installed at  the National Library de France in Paris.
> >>
> >> I  have no idea why Dr. Basset, to whom I have a lot of respect, 
informs
>  >> all of you that there are some problems in Veloxy system.
>  >> Sincerely
> >> Ercole Gialdi
> >> RGI  Resource Group Integrator
> >> Genova (Italy)
>  >>
> >> ----
> >> Messaggio  originale----
> >> Da: [email protected]
> >>  Data: 05/10/2009
> >> 13.07
> >> A:  <[email protected]>
> >> Ogg: Re: RE R: RE:  [pestlist]
> >> Moving Clean
> >>
> >>  Dear Mr Basset,
> >>
> >> I have found your email  extremely
> >> important. I own private commercial
>  >> conservation and restoration studio
> >> in Poland and I  was thinking about
> >> using veloxy system technology in
>  >> my practice. Could you please be so kind
> >> and  describe me precisely
> >> what real problem is with veloxy  machine.
> >>
> >> Jan Dondajewski
>  >>
> >>
> >> Pracownia
> >>  Konserwacji Grafiki
> >> Jan Dondajewski
> >> ul.  Wolnica 7/8
> >> 61-764 Poznań
> >>
> >>  Poland
> >> tel/fax: +48 61 855 20 67
> >> tel: +48  601 785 237
> >> jan.
> >>  [email protected]
> >>
> >> 2009/10/5  <[email protected]>
> >>
> >> >
>  >> > Dear all,
> >> >
> >>
>  >> >
> >> > It is necessary to pay attention with the  systeme veloxy, there are
> >> problém
> >> > with  this machine.
> >> > Besides, the report of the project  save
> >> art is untraceable, and the sociétè
> >>  > which markets this machine does
> >> not absolutely  re-lay.
> >> > I have of the other fournissuer if you  wish.
> >> >
> >>
> >> > M Tony  BASSET
> >> > Bibliothèque nationale de France
> >>  > Laboratoire
> >> scientifique et technique
> >>  > section microbiologie /unité désinfection
> >> >
>  >> 14 avenue Gutenberg
> >> > 77 600 Bussy Saint  Georges
> >> > Tél: 01 53 79 38 34
> >>
>  >> > Fax: 0153 79 39 10
> >> >
> >>  >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>  >> > Message de : *"[email protected]" <rgi.
> >>  [email protected]>*
> >> > 01/10/2009 15:03
> >>  > Envoyé par :
> >> >
> >>  *[email protected]**veuillez répondre à
> >>  >
> >> [email protected]*
> >> >
>  >> > Pour
> >> >  <[email protected]>Copie
> >> >
> >>  Objet
> >> > R: RE: [pestlist] Moving Clean
> >>  >
> >> >
> >> >
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>  >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>  >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>  >> > Dear all museumpestlist
> >> > VELOXY is the  smallest (all over the world)
> >> and
> >> > less  heavy tool to apply the anoxia method in museums archives
> >>  and
> >> > libraries ; it was properly developed for this  purpose and
> >> certified by
> >> > an European  project in 1998 - 2000. Since that time it
> >> was  improved
> >> > upon the suggestions of the people in charge  of
> >> conservation
> >> > Institutes.
>  >> > Please give a look to the references at
> >> RGI's  web site: www.
> >> > rgi-genova.com
> >> >  thanks to everybody of you for
> >> any welcome comments  and
> >> > suggestions
> >> > Ercole Gialdi  (rgi...@tiscali.
> >> it)
> >> >
> >>  >
> >> >
> >> > ----Messaggio
>  >> > originale----
> >> > Da:  [email protected]
> >> >
> >> Data: 01/10/2009  11..05
> >> > A:
> >> >  <[email protected]>
> >> > Ogg: RE:
>  >> [pestlist] Moving Clean
> >> >
> >>  >
> >> > Dear
> >> > Linda,
> >>  >
> >> > We've been working with
> >> EXPM in  Portugal and we can confirm
> >> > their successful performance  in
> >> book disinfestation. Static/semi-
> >> >  dynamic anoxia bubbles are
> >> particularly useful for great  collection
> >> > volumes such as the ones you
> >>  have.
> >> >
> >> > Right now we're looking for  smaller
> >> > anoxia systems for
> >> smaller  objects. The little volume of anoxia needed
> >> > makes big  anoxia
> >> generation economically less viable.
> >>  >
> >> > Greetings for
> >> > everyone  for
> >> such great discussions.
> >> >
>  >> > Luís Pinho
> >> >
> >> >  --
> >> > 20|21 Conservação
> >> > e
>  >> Restauro de Arte Contemporânea, Lda.
> >> >  www.2021.pt
> >> > Office: IN
> >> >
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> >>
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> >> >
> >> >
> >>  >
> >> >
> >> Date:
> >> > Wed,  30 Sep 2009 17:35:50 +0100
> >> > Subject: Re:  [pestlist]
> >> Moving Clean
> >> >
>  >> > From: [email protected]
> >> > To:  pestl...@museumpests.
> >> net
> >> >
>  >> > Dear Linda
> >> > Moore,
> >> > We  have done several works of this kind
> >> using anoxia bubbles  as
> >> > well as vacuuing all the items from the
>  >> collections to be transferred
> >> > to the new  deposits with much success
> >> regarding preserving both
>  >> > collections and deposits.
> >> >
> >>  > You may find
> >> further info @ www.expm.com.pt
>  >> >
> >> > Feel free to ask for any detailed
>  >> information.
> >> > Kind regards,
> >>  >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  2009/9/30 Linda Moore
> >> <[email protected]>
>  >> >
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>  >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>  >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>  >> > I am
> >> > the Collections Curator at the Fort  Collins Museum & Discovery
> >>
> >> >
>  >> > Science
> >> > Center, where we are in the  planning stage of a big move
> >> to a
> >> >  newly
> >> > built building. Our collections, which include a  large
> >> clothing
> >> > and
> >>  > textile collection, appear pretty clean right now as
> >> far  as pests
> >> > go,
> >> > but a history of  carpet beetle infestations makes
> >> me wary of moving
>  >> >
> >> >
> >> > old problems to this  new facility. I am trying
> >> to plan the most
> >>  >
> >> > effective yet feasible method for insuring that  we
> >> don't move pests
> >> > with
>  >> > our collections. What's best? Spot checking
> >> and  only addressing
> >> >
> >> >
> >>  > problems as they appear? Freezing
> >> everything? Having our  pest
> >> >
> >> > management company bomb our  current
> >> collections storage?
> >> >
>  >> > If you have
> >> > moved recently and dealt  with
> >> this issue I'd love to get
> >> > your  advice!
> >> >
> >> >
> >>  >
> >> > “Three things in
> >> human life are  important: the first is to be kind;
> >> > the
> >>  > second is to
> >> be kind; and the third is to be kind."  Henry James
> >> >
> >> > Linda
> >>  > Moore
> >> >
> >> Collections Curator
>  >> > Fort Collins Museum
> >> > (970) 416-2784
>  >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>  [email protected]
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
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