Everybody should read Selwitz and Maekawa, Getty 1998, and the more recent, Maekawa and Elert Getty 2003, as the definitive works on Anoxia. Let us keep the science clear of rhetoric and anecdote! I have a copy of the Save Art Veloxy project. it should be archived in the EEC somewhere. Veloxy works when you use it properly but it has practical limitations on treating large objects because of the flow rates at low O2 levels. David Pinniger ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:00 AM Subject: Re: R: Re: RE R: RE: [pestlist] Moving Clean
A FTIR was use in the research to determine when insects species die at what ppm, temperature and in what time frame. Test were done on actual Art objects. Also about 25% of time was added as protection. Another protection to bring the ppm range lower than needed. In some cases you can see the insect after treatment in other cases like European powder post beetle you may not. Bill In a message dated 10/5/2009 10:37:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: You`re right Sharlane. Gialdi vs Basset is the useless discussion. Pardon me, please. By the way, how do you measure anoxia treatments` effectiveness? Can you find the bugs you`ve killed but can`t be seen? Luis Pinho > Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:28:19 -0400 > Subject: Re: R: Re: RE R: RE: [pestlist] Moving Clean > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > This is a message from the Pest Management Database List. > To post to this list send it as an email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > I AM interested in this discussion, and feel it is pertinent to the > list as there are not too many suppliers of the type of equipment used > for this process, and those considering using it or who already have > it want to know the facts concerning its effectiveness (since this has > been called into question.) > > What do you and others feel IS the appropriate time and place for this > type of question if not a public list-serve specifically about > treatments for eradicating/preventing infestations of pests? > > When a particular discussion is not useful to me (and there are many), > I just do not read it and then delete any with the same thread as soon > they appear in my e-mail. > > Sharlane Gubkin > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Luís Pinho <[email protected]> wrote: > > As this mailing list is not a public market, a court or something similar, > > it would be great to leave the VELOXY questions to another time and place.. > > > > I'm not interested in this useless discussion. > > > > Luís Pinho > > > > > > > >> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:05:57 +0200 > >> From: [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: R: Re: RE R: RE: [pestlist] Moving Clean > >> > >> This is a message from the Pest Management Database List. > >> To post to this list send it as an email to [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > >> ----------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear friends of PESTLIST, > >> I red from home (because a flue) the > >> astonishing message of Dr. Basset concerning Veloxy; I will write as > >> soon as possible a message to everybody of you showing the references > >> of the equipment that was developed , certified and that is > >> successfully applied in the list of Conservation Institutes that are in > >> our references at the web site : www.rgi-genova.com. > >> In my next message > >> I will list the persons that can be contacted to know exactly if VELOXY > >> had problems in their Conservation Institues. > >> As the matter of the > >> facts, Dr. Basset has not used Veloxy, until now, because it was > >> crashed during the transport from Italy to France and for this reason, > >> could not jet be installed at the National Library de France in Paris. > >> > >> I have no idea why Dr. Basset, to whom I have a lot of respect, informs > >> all of you that there are some problems in Veloxy system. > >> Sincerely > >> Ercole Gialdi > >> RGI Resource Group Integrator > >> Genova (Italy) > >> > >> ---- > >> Messaggio originale---- > >> Da: [email protected] > >> Data: 05/10/2009 > >> 13.07 > >> A: <[email protected]> > >> Ogg: Re: RE R: RE: [pestlist] > >> Moving Clean > >> > >> Dear Mr Basset, > >> > >> I have found your email extremely > >> important. I own private commercial > >> conservation and restoration studio > >> in Poland and I was thinking about > >> using veloxy system technology in > >> my practice. Could you please be so kind > >> and describe me precisely > >> what real problem is with veloxy machine. > >> > >> Jan Dondajewski > >> > >> > >> Pracownia > >> Konserwacji Grafiki > >> Jan Dondajewski > >> ul.. Wolnica 7/8 > >> 61-764 Poznań > >> > >> Poland > >> tel/fax: +48 61 855 20 67 > >> tel: +48 601 785 237 > >> jan. > >> [email protected] > >> > >> 2009/10/5 <[email protected]> > >> > >> > > >> > Dear all, > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > It is necessary to pay attention with the systeme veloxy, there are > >> problém > >> > with this machine. > >> > Besides, the report of the project save > >> art is untraceable, and the sociétè > >> > which markets this machine does > >> not absolutely re-lay. > >> > I have of the other fournissuer if you wish. > >> > > >> > >> > M Tony BASSET > >> > Bibliothèque nationale de France > >> > Laboratoire > >> scientifique et technique > >> > section microbiologie /unité désinfection > >> > > >> 14 avenue Gutenberg > >> > 77 600 Bussy Saint Georges > >> > Tél: 01 53 79 38 34 > >> > >> > Fax: 0153 79 39 10 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Message de : *"[email protected]" <rgi. > >> [email protected]>* > >> > 01/10/2009 15:03 > >> > Envoyé par : > >> > > >> *[email protected]**veuillez répondre à > >> > > >> [email protected]* > >> > > >> > Pour > >> > <[email protected]>Copie > >> > > >> Objet > >> > R: RE: [pestlist] Moving Clean > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > This is a message from > >> the Pest Management Database List. > >> > To post to this list send it as an > >> email to [email protected] > >> > To unsubscribe please look at the > >> footer of this email. > >> > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > Dear all museumpestlist > >> > VELOXY is the smallest (all over the world) > >> and > >> > less heavy tool to apply the anoxia method in museums archives > >> and > >> > libraries ; it was properly developed for this purpose and > >> certified by > >> > an European project in 1998 - 2000. Since that time it > >> was improved > >> > upon the suggestions of the people in charge of > >> conservation > >> > Institutes. > >> > Please give a look to the references at > >> RGI's web site: www. > >> > rgi-genova.com > >> > thanks to everybody of you for > >> any welcome comments and > >> > suggestions > >> > Ercole Gialdi (rgi...@tiscali. > >> it) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----Messaggio > >> > originale---- > >> > Da: [email protected] > >> > > >> Data: 01/10/2009 11..05 > >> > A: > >> > <[email protected]> > >> > Ogg: RE: > >> [pestlist] Moving Clean > >> > > >> > > >> > Dear > >> > Linda, > >> > > >> > We've been working with > >> EXPM in Portugal and we can confirm > >> > their successful performance in > >> book disinfestation. Static/semi- > >> > dynamic anoxia bubbles are > >> particularly useful for great collection > >> > volumes such as the ones you > >> have. > >> > > >> > Right now we're looking for smaller > >> > anoxia systems for > >> smaller objects. The little volume of anoxia needed > >> > makes big anoxia > >> generation economically less viable. > >> > > >> > Greetings for > >> > everyone for > >> such great discussions. > >> > > >> > Luís Pinho > >> > > >> > -- > >> > 20|21 Conservação > >> > e > >> Restauro de Arte Contemporânea, Lda. > >> > www.2021.pt > >> > Office: IN > >> > > >> Serralves, Rua de Serralves 954, Porto > >> > Atelier: Rua do Rosário 339-B, > >> > >> > 1º Esq, Porto > >> > tel +351 22 010 98 71 > >> > mob +351 96 008 06 0 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Date: > >> > Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:35:50 +0100 > >> > Subject: Re: [pestlist] > >> Moving Clean > >> > > >> > From: [email protected] > >> > To: pestl...@museumpests. > >> net > >> > > >> > Dear Linda > >> > Moore, > >> > We have done several works of this kind > >> using anoxia bubbles as > >> > well as vacuuing all the items from the > >> collections to be transferred > >> > to the new deposits with much success > >> regarding preserving both > >> > collections and deposits. > >> > > >> > You may find > >> further info @ www.expm.com.pt > >> > > >> > Feel free to ask for any detailed > >> information. > >> > Kind regards, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > 2009/9/30 Linda Moore > >> <[email protected]> > >> > > >> > This is a message from the > >> > Pest Management > >> Database List. > >> > To post to this list send it as an email > >> > to > >> [email protected] > >> > > >> > To unsubscribe please look at the footer > >> > > >> of this email. > >> > > >> > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > I am > >> > the Collections Curator at the Fort Collins Museum & Discovery > >> > >> > > >> > Science > >> > Center, where we are in the planning stage of a big move > >> to a > >> > newly > >> > built building. Our collections, which include a large > >> clothing > >> > and > >> > textile collection, appear pretty clean right now as > >> far as pests > >> > go, > >> > but a history of carpet beetle infestations makes > >> me wary of moving > >> > > >> > > >> > old problems to this new facility. I am trying > >> to plan the most > >> > > >> > effective yet feasible method for insuring that we > >> don't move pests > >> > with > >> > our collections. What's best? Spot checking > >> and only addressing > >> > > >> > > >> > problems as they appear? Freezing > >> everything? Having our pest > >> > > >> > management company bomb our current > >> collections storage? > >> > > >> > If you have > >> > moved recently and dealt with > >> this issue I'd love to get > >> > your advice! > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > “Three things in > >> human life are important: the first is to be kind; > >> > the > >> > second is to > >> be kind; and the third is to be kind." 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