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Jerry. I have seen what Amber's system - and it is impressive. The containers 
are altered, including additional gaskets.  Yes, it is more complicated than 
just  purchasing off the shelf  and the enclosures need to be tested.  But this 
is an affordable way to go and it is possible.   As I stated earlier I was able 
to maintain micro climate for 5 years with confidence.  I am not saying that it 
is completely air tight.  But we were able to maintain 30% RH for that length 
of time.  

Gretchen 

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Shiner
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:27 PM
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Subject: RE: [pestlist] Plastic containers

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Neil

Providing an "air tight" seal for a large tub is far more challenging than 
snapping a gasketed lid onto a small box. For a truly air tight solution, you 
should consider a flexible (plastic) envelope.  I don't think you will find a 
large, truly air tight container at reasonable cost.

If you decide to bag the artifact(s), you need to consider the materials used 
to make the bag, and your expectations. Are you simply protecting from air 
currents and dust (short term work like freezing or construction dust 
protection)? Will offgassing from the plastic (or its
plasticizers) be a hazard? Are you concerned about chemicals/odours/moisture 
permeating the bag (in or out)?  Would it be useful to create an anoxic 
environment?

If storage is temporary, you will have few worries, but if it is a long term 
application, it would be worthwhile to investigate barrier films and heat 
sealers. 

js

Jerry Shiner
Keepsafe Microclimate Systems
800 683 4696  www.keepsafe.ca [email protected] Specializing in the design, 
procurement, and installation of environmental control systems in museums and 
archives.
 
 


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Carey
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:36 PM
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Subject: [pestlist] Plastic containers


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Amber.

Thanks for your post re: Lock&Lock plastic containers. I looked at both your 
Amazon link and at their own website. They seem ideal for small items, but I 
could not find any large enough for larger objects. We have many pieces that 
barely fit into a 24" x 36" polyethylene bag, and some Kpelle masks with 
feathered coifs approach 40". The larger pieces can always be handled 
individually, but I wonder if there are 18-24" x 30-36" containers similar to 
the L&L that could accommodate the bulk of our collection. Having transparency, 
a good seal, being nestable and stackable with enough capacity seems ideal.

Neil



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