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Erika, Ah! My concerns would be about the same as yours: potential for pests (new and existing even with past treatment), dust, and additionally people. I don't know how much the charcoal would be of interest to pests but the unburnt/partially burnt items may. The image shows well burned items but there may be some parts that still have enough to be of interest to pests. The silk is the same concern as if you had silk items in your collection in my opinion, monitor and be careful. This would honestly be my least concern for this piece. The dust from the charcoal would worry me. Disaster response literature or those that have participated in a response effort for a fire will note how charcoal dust and soot gets EVERYWHERE. As it is so fine it can get ingrained into just about anything very easily. Granted this will be much more controlled than the dust/soot from a fire but I feel it would travel easily. That leads to my last point of people. People will touch the charcoal. I want to say especially children but as I'm sure everyone has seen adults are just as bad. After they touch the charcoal they will do their best effort to touch everything within reach, especially if its collection items. This would be my biggest concern. Would it be possible to have the charcoal and burnt silk in a Plexiglas box? Off the top of my head, a base of Plexiglas, the artist or staff arrange the charcoal and burnt silk on the base and then a Plexiglas lid is placed over top, possibly within a shallow recess so the lid can't easily slide off? While this isn't impenetrable it would certainly drastically reduce any concerns and would minimally affect the aesthetic of the piece. Good luck! William Shepherd Collections Officer Swift Current Museum 44 Robert Street West Swift Current, Saskatchewan S9H 4M9 Phone: 306-778-4815 Fax: 306-778-4818 From: pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net [mailto:pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of Wingfield, Erika Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 3:40 PM To: 'pestlist@museumpests.net' <pestlist@museumpests.net> Subject: [pestlist] "Forest Debris" and Possible Pests This is a message from the Museumpests.net List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe look at the footer of this email. ----------------------------------------------------------- Hello once again! No beetle questions this time! An artist has proposed an installation that is going to include "forest fire debris" (please see attached image). The artist has described said "debris" as such: "...the 'debris' is more or less charcoal and silk, piled in a line about 6" high directly beneath the photo. It is the charcoal remains of the forest that appears in the photo, so it is essential to the concept of the piece. Some of the charcoal retains the shape of pine needles, cones, bark, branches or wood. It is fragile and can be crushed by hand. The brown bits you see in the picture are charred pieces of silk from the bottom edge of the photo. There are no leaves or wood chips. The charcoal bits have been re-burned and subjected to multiple freeze-thaw cycles. The material was screened after cooling down to remove ash and fine dust. The reality is that both the charcoal and silk are very fragile and can be pulverized in handling as well as shipping which can result in dust." Obviously there are many concerns about this installation. The artist claims to have done freeze-thaw cycles but how much would this actually help in regards to keeping pests away. Certainly it could rid the "debris" of any bugs that might be in there at present...but what about prevention? We have a prohibited items list that we use for flower arrangements and pine cones, bark, branches and wood (unless it has been treated) are prohibited. But I am not so sure about these items after they have been burned. This work has mainly been in galleries in the past...and I think this is the first time it is coming into a museum so I don't have any institutions that I can contact to see what they had did during install and the duration of the exhibition. I am hoping that we could make this work, but no matter how I look at it this install seems like it can't happen. Does anyone have any experience with dealing with piles of charcoal? Are there any pests that would be attracted to this material, would they be the same types that are attracted to wood and plant matter even though this material has been burned down to charcoal? Obviously the dust is also a concern because of our HVAC system...but that is a whole separate issue. I am trying to arm myself with information so that if/when I have to go to the curator to tell him it is a no go I will have documentation and perhaps even examples. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best, Erika Erika Wingfield Assistant Registrar Direct: 602.307.2030 Email: erika.wingfi...@phxart.org<mailto:erika.wingfi...@phxart.org> Phoenix Art Museum 1625 N. Central Avenue Phoenix, AZ 85004 phxart.org<http://www.phxart.org/> ------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list send an email to imail...@museumpests.net<mailto:imail...@museumpests.net> and in the body put: "unsubscribe pestlist" Any problems email l...@zaks.com<mailto:l...@zaks.com> ------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list send an email to imail...@museumpests.net and in the body put: "unsubscribe pestlist" Any problems email l...@zaks.com