You're right - 640K ! That was the limit. It was built into DOS somewhere
and as memory needs grew, so a workaround had to be adopted. There were two
types of memory allocation as I recall, the extended bit (beyond 640K) had
to be separately addressed and was a real limitation. I'm sure it still
applied in Windows 3.1 and possibly even 95.

Trapped Rat was a good description - devised no doubt by educationalists in
the world of Acorn where no such limitation applied.

See you all tonight.

Brian



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Subject: [Peterboro] OS histories and tonight's meeting (was Re: Getting
rsync output into a file (DOS))

> I'm looking forward to learning the world of Linux. I hadn't realised that
> Linux predated DOS. Did I understand that correctly? As I recall, when IBM
> brought out the first PC they needed an operating system and found this
> young geek called Bill Gates, who promised them a solution and then
> quickly
> cobbled together an OS from something he borrowed. It was referred to as
> QDOS (for quick and dirty operating system) but I'm not sure if that was
> Bill Gates' efforts or the name of the product he
> begged/borred/bought/stole.

I'm sure Martin meant UNIX, which Linux is derived from and which DOS
attempted to aspire to. UNIX has been around longer than DOS. Windows was
conceived in 1985. Linux came a bit later in 1991.

> DOS was also known as the "Trapped Rat" - a reference to the 1K (am I
> right)
> of memory that it was trapped inside, a legacy that was still hampering
> Microsoft well into Windows 95, I seem to recall.

I think it's 1MB, though I've never heard of the "trapped rat" expression.
Certainly it was a struggle to get past 640K in those days, though whoever
could possibly need more than that anyway? lol

> BTW - when is next meeting? Tonight?

Yes - probably see you there. I'm assuming it's at the school?

Malc

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