Thanks! I've added these to some running notes and will address these
further once I get to those sections in the manual.

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Barry Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Jun 24, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Patrick Sanan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm working on some groundwork to improve the PETSc documentation, and
>> the next thing I'd like to look at is the User's Manual, adding
>> slightly-prettier code listings (as in the update to the dev manual).
>>
>> Before doing that, however,  it would be very helpful to know if there
>> are any sections of the manual which are known, by the relevant
>> experts here, to require deletion or heavy rewrites; it would of
>> course be a waste of time to format these.
>>
>> Specifically, I'm wondering about the following sections, which have
>> in common that they are things concerned with friendly external tools.
>> I've seen new users get very frustrated when they expect these sorts
>> of things to "just work," so it's probably constructive to remove any
>> outdated information here:
>>
>
>     Take out chapter 10  Using ADIFOR with PETSc we have no support for this.
>
>> - Chapter 11: Using MATLAB with PETSc . The support here has changed
>> quite a lot, so I'm not sure what currently works. Is the MATLAB
>> Compute Engine still supported?
>
>    Everything here is supported. What is missing is that the section 11.1 
> Dumping Data for MATLAB should have two parts:
>
> 1) Dumping small amounts of data with ASCII files and (what is there now) and
>
> 2) Dumping larger data with the binary viewer and loading it with 
> PetscBinaryRead.m
>
> under 2 it should also mention 
> PetscViewerPushFormat(viewer,PETSC_VIEWER_BINARY_MATLAB) this causes a .m 
> script to be generated that reads the all the data objects from the binary 
> file and formats them appropriately. For example DMDA vectors get 
> automatically properly shaped in Matlab. See for example 
> src/dm/examples/tutorials/ex7.c
>
>>
>> - Sections 15.10-15.14: Eclipse/Qt Creator/Developers Studio/XCode
>> users. This is likely not all current. Is this information helpful
>> here?
>
>    Though not a lot of people use this stuff we need to keep this information 
> somewhere. Better in the users manual then lost in some file?
>
>>
>> - Section 15.15 : Graphics. I saw that there were some updates to the
>> drawing tools recently by Lisandro, so if any of this material is
>> known to be out of date, that would be helpful to know.
>
>    Nothing wrong with the data here. It is just missing some stuff like tikz, 
> simple savings of movies and images
>

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