On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 09:58:31AM +0000, Dave Rocks wrote:
> My question is how stupid is it to run DNS(tinydns),Mail(qmail) + my home 
> firewall/router ( NAT + pf ) on the same machine??
> I always read NEVER run anything extra on your firewall. For my small home 
> set-up ( i get maybe 20 emails a day & 50 dns requests ) does it really 
> matter that I run dns & mail on my firewall. My pf rules are pretty 
> standard, a default deny + allow in UDP on port 53 & TCP on 25.
> I also allow in SSH, WWW but only from my work IP address, so that 
> shouldn't affect things & POP but only from internal hosts.
> I'm going to be going wireless on my LAN side soon with the same BSD box 
> being my wireless access point (gonna use IPSEC), as long as my pf rules as 
> tight should I be o.k? Or am I being dumb & I need to do something like 
> stick a DMZ machine in for my dns/mail?
if you can afford an extra box and extra space under the sofa to stow it
under, then this is  the  way  to  go.  otherwise,  you  must  answer  a
question:  how  sensitive  is  the  information  transiting  thru   your
firewall? what are the estimated costs  of  it  being  uncovered/leaked?
what are the impacts to your image if your firewall got cracked?

well, I think you'll have to answer it anyways.

rampant paranoia is never very far. but let me tell  you  this:  if  the
information you have is damn precious, no matter what you do to  protect
it, it might just rise the skills/money required to get it.

if you are like john nobody, get a  drink  and  happily  configure  your
firewall  with  the  above-mentioned  software   using   as   secure   a
configuration as possible and opt for secure options  (SSH-tunneled  POP
instead of clear POP from outside if  ever  needed,  etc.  you  get  the
picture).

the idea of using IPsec on your wireless lan is  good.  IMHO,  it's  the
best option today (WEP is...well...you know and 802.1x has already shown
some cracks). I even met some french so-called consultants that went  to
the extent of using SSH-tunneled protocols inside of  IPsec  using  2048
bits keys etc. hum.

and if that helps, I ran my home firewall for ages with dns,  email  and
other services (from the internal network). has  it  got  cracked?  none
that I know of since I closely monitor my logs on a daily  basis  and  I
run integrity checking software (aide. still using it. but  I'm  in  the
move to samhain though the docs are overwhelming *cough*).

but since last year, I afforded an extra sofa and an extra dmz box 8~).
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cheers.
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