Hello, but you talk general like "members of the list were mostly unhelpful" and that is not true, if you follow the list I can only see the oposite. You cannot expect to get all answers you really need from members. If you get not enough answers try in different ways, complaining like this is just not a solution
John --- On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, stan wrote: > On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 10:33:37PM +0100, Sigfred H?versen wrote: > > On Saturday 03 January 2004 22:07, you wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 09:57:22PM +0100, Sigfred H?versen wrote: > > > > Be kind enough to stop this thread. > > > > > > So, I should give up on my project to turn this ***hole into a normal human > > > being? > > > > Yes, please. Actually, you are beeing quite offensive, and he does have a > > point. > > > Actually he does not have a point, and is the one being offensive. > > Here is how i see this. > > A while back I wanted to make some simple changes to my existing OpenBSD > based firewall that I built and has worked very well for several years. > > Members of this list were mostly unhelpful, and recommended that i upgrade to > the newer pf based system. Now one of the reasons I chose OpenBSD (actually > the reason I replaced a FreeBSD machine doing this) was that I felt I needed > to spend too much time keeping the FreeBSD machine up to date to avoid > vulnerabilities in it as they were discovered. > > Since this is my only way of connecting, this task was fraught with risk for > me. > > I allocated a day or 2 of my Christmas vacation to this task. > > I installed OpenBSD with relatively little problem (the only real problem > was that the machine I was using wad old, and could not boot the 8G drive > under OpenBSD, even though it has no problem booting FreeBSD on that disk. > > Then I asked about conversion utilities to covert my exiting nat ipf rules > files, and was told that there were none. I asked for examples and was > pointed to a _very_ small set of examples. I recall that when I did the > original there were many, many examples to look at. > > I started with one of the examples, and ran into major problems. I could > not get a ruleset that worked at all in "default deny" mode. I asked about > fwbuilder (which does support OpenBSD, and pf) and was laughed at. > > I finally scraped all that I had done, and stared over, and finally came up > with something that was working enough that I could at least put it in > place, at the cost of reduced functionality. > > I started asking specific questions about specific problems, and mostly > what I got from the list was abuse, and then this ***%$# person starts > personnel attacks on me. > > **l of a way t run a railroad IMHO! > -- > "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve > neither liberty nor safety." > -- Benjamin Franklin >
