Dave, Ah, I guess the two of us have a different understanding of *desktop* mode. In your, and apparently pgAdmin4's case, it's a locally running web server with a couple of settings tweaked. In my, and perhaps many other people's, understanding *desktop* mode is a program that you install on your machine that contains it's own UI and *isn't* a server (even one that's running on your local machine) that you access with your web browser as you would google.com or facebook.com. Desktop mode is like pgAdmin3, non-desktop (server) mode is like running apache locally that has had phpPgAdmin installed. In pgAdmin4's case it's using python not php and the application and web server come as a bundle.
But thanks for pointing me to that web page. rik. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 8:14 AM Dave Page <dp...@pgadmin.org> wrote: > Hi > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 12:58 PM richard coleman < > rcoleman.ascen...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dave, >> >> Thanks for helping to clear that up, I am sorry I misunderstood >> Khushboo's response. As for running in *desktop mode*, I didn't think >> that was possible for quite some time. I sure haven't been able to find >> out how to pull that off. If you could explain, I would imagine I am not >> the only one who would like that opportunity. >> > > You are running in desktop mode, otherwise you would see the login page > when you first connect (and you wouldn't get the master password prompt). > See https://www.pgadmin.org/docs/pgadmin4/4.11/getting_started.html (and > the relevant child pages on Server and Desktop deployment) > > Desktop vs. Server mode is not about the whether you access pgAdmin > through a browser or not, but whether it's configured for running on a > single user's desktop or on a web server that may be accessible to multiple > users (or people who should not be using it at all; e.g. other people on > the same LAN) > > >> >> rik. >> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 4:45 AM Dave Page <dp...@pgadmin.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 8:50 PM richard coleman < >>> rcoleman.ascen...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> (sorry about the last missive - continued) >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 3:38 PM richard coleman < >>>> rcoleman.ascen...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Darren, >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 3:03 PM Darren Duncan <dar...@darrenduncan.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Have you tried using more than one browser? >>>>>> that's what I've taken to doing, I have a separate install of >>>>>> Chromium just for pgAdmin4. I've even changed the browser command to >>>>> >>>>> "chromium-browser %URL% " so that it starts with the right browser. >>>> >>>> Although not all browsers are apparently equal. Back on 2019-06-19 >>>> 04:10:13 Khushboo Vashi <khushboo(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> >>>> wrote in response to an issue I was having under Chromium; >>>> >>>>> "I would suggest, try a different browser as well as Chromium is not >>>>> the >>>>> supported browser for pgAdmin." >>>> >>>> Which suggests that there is *a supported browser* for pgAdmin4. This >>>> begs the question, if there's only a *single* supported browser, what >>>> exactly is the point of a web app? It's like web sites that only worked >>>> correctly under IE6. >>>> >>> >>> Don't mistake the phrasing there as an implication that there's only a >>> single supported browser. Khushboo's first language is not English. >>> >>> We (the team at EDB, I can't speak for others) test on Chrome, Firefox, >>> Safari, IE and Edge. For anyone using other browsers, the first step for us >>> in diagnosing an issue is going to be to try to reproduce it on one of the >>> browsers we test with. It's not feasible for us to test with everything >>> that is out there. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Developing pgAdmin4 as a *web app*/*web server* thing might make sense >>>> from a development standpoint, but personally I think it introduces way >>>> more problems than it solves. >>>> >>> >>> It certainly does cause some problems that we didn't have before, but >>> it's proven itself to solve a lot more. >>> >>> There's also the fact that running over the web is exactly what many >>> people want these days. I would guesstimate that we probably see something >>> like 50% of users we interact with running in web mode, and 50% in desktop >>> mode. Download-wise, the number of container pulls is far outstripping the >>> number of other downloads these days with Docker hub reporting > 10 >>> million. All of those users are running in web mode as that's the only way >>> the container runs, so it's clear that the web app architecture is the >>> right thing for a significant number of users. >>> >>> -- >>> Dave Page >>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com >>> Twitter: @pgsnake >>> >>> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com >>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company >>> >> > > -- > Dave Page > Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com > Twitter: @pgsnake > > EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com > The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company >
