On 10/24/25 21:50, David Rowley wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 at 17:36, Adrian Klaver <[email protected]> wrote:
I am not following, from your previous post:
"Beta versions are meant for test instances. It'd be
good if people encouraged their use more often rather than pushing
people to defer til GA"
That seems to be the opposite of what you say above.
I think you think that because you misunderstood what I said in [1].
I'll rephrase it for you:
Because people promote the .0 as not yet production-ready, it means
that fewer people bother testing with beta and RC versions. Lack of
beta testing is what causes .0 to contain more bugs than it otherwise
might, so my suggestion is that we should be encouraging people to run
beta and RC in their test environments to try to increase the
stability of .0 versions.
Alright that I understand, though not necessarily agree with. I would
say lack of testing has more to do with time/money management.
Organizations don't want to spend either until: 1) They see the dust
settle on what is going to end up in the release. 2) Whether there is
anything interesting enough to invest both in moving to a new release.
Maybe there is a compelling argument that can be made to get those
organizations off the fence. I just don't what it is as you would have
to convince them to spend time and money rather then just wait and let
the community as a whole do the work.
I struggle to imagine anyone with any respect for the PostgreSQL
project disagreeing with that, so I suspect you and Johnson must have
misunderstood.
No we didn't misunderstand, we where responding to what the OP was
proposing which was jumping a production instance from 11 --> 18. That
is a different case then promoting testing of in beta's and rc's.
David
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Adrian Klaver
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