Yes,  issue a kill on the pid from the command line as either postgres
or root.  note I didn't say kill -9 there.

How do I get the pids? Is there something specific I should look for in
the executable name I can see in "ps"?

 Will I break any remote server processes which are handeling remote
attaches if I do this?


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Marlowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:03 PM
To: Gauthier, Dave
Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] connection timeouts and "killing" users

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Gauthier, Dave
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi:
>
>
>
> Here's the problem...
>
>
>
> I have a read-only DB  that gets reloaded from scratch every night.
This
> takes several hours and I don't want any late night users to have to
wait
> for this process to complete, so I have 2 DBs.  The first DB is the
one the
> users access.  Call it "main_db".  I load a second DB which has an
identical
> architecture at night.  Call it "standby_db".  When the load finishes,
I
> rename "main_db" to "tmp", then rename "standby_db" to "main_db", then
> rename "tmp" to "standby_db".  So, the users should have access to a
> "main_db" all the time (except for a second when the renames happen).
And
> "standby_db" serves as a full backup which I can use should I need it.
>
>
>
> Here's the problem...
>
>
>
> Sometimes the renames fail because people are still attached to either
> "main_db" or "standby_db".  The error messages indicate this is the
problem
> anyway.  Someof those users (most of them) are probably fast asleep at
home
> and forgot to exit the interactive session that was connected to the
DB.
>
> Q: Is there a way I can set a timeout where, if a user is inactive for
say
> an hour, they get disconnected?

Not that I know of.

> Q Is there a way to "kill" all active users without having to cycle
the DB
> server with something like "pg_ctl stop -m fast -D ..." ?

Yes,  issue a kill on the pid from the command line as either postgres
or root.  note I didn't say kill -9 there.

> Q: (the best option)... Is there a way I can leave those users
attached to
> their DB regardless of the fact that it's name changed while they were
> attached?

I don't think so.  What might work best is to have two pg_hba.conf
files, and link to each one.  so one is pg_hba.conf.lockout and one is
pg_hba.conf.normal, let's say.  lockout is set to only answer to the
postgres user.  Switch the pg_hba.conf files, and do a pg_ctl
stop;pg_ctl start or equivalent (/etc/init.d/postgresql stop / start)
and then do your processing.  switch them back and restart pgsql
again.

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