On 09/14/2018 07:36 AM, Dave Page wrote:
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, James Keener <j...@jimkeener.com
<mailto:j...@jimkeener.com>> wrote:
Now, you may say that (2) would be rejected by the
committee, but I would
counter that it's still a stain on me and something that
will forever appear
along side my name in search results and that the amount
of time and
stress it'd take me to defend myself would make my
voluntarily leaving
the community, which would be seen as an admission of
guilt, my only
option.
If you had read the policy, you would know that wouldn't
happen as reports and details of reports are to be kept
confidential.
That doesn't mean I won't be strung along and it doesn't mean that
the attacker can't release those details. Remember, I'm worried
about politically motivated attacks, and attacks meant to silence
opposing viewpoints, not legitimate instances of harassment.
Sure, but an attacker can do that now. Having the CoC doesn't change
anything there, though it does give us a framework to deal with it.
People are shitheads. People are assholes. We're not
agreeing to join
some organization and sign an ethics clause when signing
up for the mailing
list. The current moderators can already remove bad
actors from the list.
How they act outside of the list is non of this list's
concern.
The lists are just one of many different ways people in this
community interact.
So? We interact with people outside of specific groups all the
time. Baring specific
agreements to the contrary, why should any one group claim
responsibility of my
personal business?
If that business is publicly bringing the project into disrepute, or
harassing other community members and they approach us about it, then
it becomes our business.
If it's unrelated to PostgreSQL, then it's your personal business and
not something the project would get involved in.
O.k. so this isn't clear (at least to me) within the CoC. I want to make
sure I understand. You are saying that if a community member posts on
Twitter that they believe gays are going to hell, reporting that to the
CoC committee would result in a non-violation UNLESS they referenced
postgresql within the post?
JD
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