On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 08:39:27AM -0400, Joe Conway wrote:
On 6/17/19 8:29 AM, Masahiko Sawada wrote:
From perspective of  cryptographic, I think the fine grained TDE would
be better solution. Therefore if we eventually want the fine grained
TDE I wonder if it might be better to develop the table/tablespace TDE
first while keeping it simple as much as possible in v1, and then we
can provide the functionality to encrypt other data in database
cluster to satisfy the encrypting-everything requirement. I guess that
it's easier to incrementally add encryption target objects rather than
making it fine grained while not changing encryption target objects.

FWIW I'm writing a draft patch of per tablespace TDE and will submit
it in this month. We can more discuss the complexity of the proposed
TDE using it.

+1

Looking forward to it.


Yep. In particular, I'm interested in those aspects:

(1) What's the proposed minimum viable product, and how do we expect to
extend it with the more elaborate features. I don't expect perfect
specification, but we should have some idea so that we don't paint
ourselves in the corner.

(2) How does it affect recovery, backups and replication (both physical
and logical)? That is, which other parts need to know the encryption keys
to function properly?

(3) What does it mean for external tools (pg_waldump, pg_upgrade,
pg_rewind etc.)?

regards

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