On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 01:32:45PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> I think it boils down to that today the output from initdb is entirely
> geared towards people running initdb directly and starting their
> server manually, and very few people outside the actual PostgreSQL
> developers ever do that. But there are still a lot of people who run
> initdb through their wrapper manually (for redhat you have to do that,
> for debian you only have to do it if you're creating a secondary
> cluster but that still a pretty common operation).

I think the big issue is that pg_upgrade not only output progress
messages, but created files in the current directory, while initdb, by
definition, is creating files in PGDATA.

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