On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Grzegorz Jaskiewicz <g...@pointblue.com.pl> wrote: > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 13:18, Robert Haas wrote: > >> People coming from Oracle are not favorably >> impressed either by the amount of monitoring data PostgreSQL can >> gather or by the number of knobs that are available to fix problems >> when they occur. We don't need to have as many knobs as Oracle and we >> probably don't want to, and for that matter we probably couldn't if we >> did want to for lack of manpower, but that doesn't mean we should have >> none. > > Still, having more data a user can probe would be nice. > > I wonder why everyone avoids Microsoft's approach to the subject. Apparently, > they go in the 'auto-tune as much as possible' direction. > And tests we did a while ago, involving asking team from Microsoft and a team > from oracle to optimise set of queries for the same set of data (bookies > data, loads of it) showed that the auto-tuning Microsoft has in their > sql server performed much better than a team of over-sweating oracle dba's.
I don't think *anyone* is avoiding that approach. There is almost universal consensus here that auto-tuning is better than manual tuning, even to the extent of being unwilling to add knobs to allow manual tuning of settings we have no idea how to auto-tune and no plans to auto-tune. > In my current work place/camp we have many deployments of the same system, > over different types of machines, each with different customer data that vary > so much that queries need to be rather generic. > Postgresql shows its strength with planner doing a good job for different > variants of data, however we do a very little tweaking to the configuration > parameters. Just because it is just too hard to overlook all of them. > I guess that the systems could behave much better, but no one is going to > tweak settings for 50 different installations over 50 different type of data > and 50 different sets of hardware. > If there was even a tiny amount of automation provided in the postgresql, I > would welcome it with open arms. What do you have in mind? -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (email@example.com) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers