I can confirm that both the pg_clog and pg_subtrans errors do occur when
using pg_basebackup instead of rsync.  The data itself seems to be fine
because using the exact same data I can start up a warm standby no problem,
it is just the hot standby that will not start up.


On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Chris Redekop <ch...@replicon.com> wrote:

> > > Linas, could you capture the output of pg_controldata *and* increase
> the
> > > log level to DEBUG1 on the standby? We should then see nextXid value of
> > > the checkpoint the recovery is starting from.
> >
> > I'll try to do that whenever I'm in that territory again... Incidentally,
> > recently there was a lot of unrelated-to-this-post work to polish things
> up
> > for a talk being given at PGWest 2011 Today :)
> >
> > > I also checked what rsync does when a file vanishes after rsync
> computed the
> > > file list, but before it is sent. rsync 3.0.7 on OSX, at least,
> complains
> > > loudly, and doesn't sync the file. It BTW also exits non-zero, with a
> special
> > > exit code for precisely that failure case.
> >
> > To be precise, my script has logic to accept the exit code 24, just as
> > stated in PG manual:
> >
> > Docs> For example, some versions of rsync return a separate exit code for
> > Docs> "vanished source files", and you can write a driver script to
> accept
> > Docs> this exit code as a non-error case.
>
> I also am running into this issue and can reproduce it very reliably.  For
> me, however, it happens even when doing the "fast backup" like so:
> pg_start_backup('whatever', true)...my traffic is more write-heavy than
> linas's tho, so that might have something to do with it.  Yesterday it
> reliably errored out on pg_clog every time, but today it is
> failing sporadically on pg_subtrans (which seems to be past where the
> pg_clog error was)....the only thing that has changed is that I've changed
> the log level to debug1....I wouldn't think that could be related though.
>  I've linked the requested pg_controldata and debug1 logs for both errors.
>  Both links contain the output from pg_start_backup, rsync, pg_stop_backup,
> pg_controldata, and then the postgres debug1 log produced from a subsequent
> startup attempt.
>
> pg_clog: http://pastebin.com/mTfdcjwH
> pg_subtrans: http://pastebin.com/qAXEHAQt
>
> Any workarounds would be very appreciated.....would copying clog+subtrans
> before or after the rest of the data directory (or something like that) make
> any difference?
>
> Thanks!
>

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