On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Andres Freund <and...@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: > On 2013-10-31 12:21:31 -0400, Robert Haas wrote: >> Patch #2, shm-toc-v1.patch, provides a facility for sizing a dynamic >> shared memory segment before creation, and for dividing it up into >> chunks after it's been created. It therefore serves a function quite >> similar to RequestAddinShmemSpace, except of course that there is only >> one main shared memory segment created at postmaster startup time, >> whereas new dynamic shared memory segments can come into existence on >> the fly; and it serves even more conspicuously the function of >> ShmemIndex, which enables backends to locate particular data >> structures within the shared memory segment. It is however quite a >> bit simpler than the ShmemIndex mechanism: we don't need the same >> level of extensibility here that we do for the main shared memory >> segment, because a new extension need not piggyback on an existing >> dynamic shared memory segment, but can create a whole segment of its >> own. > > So, without the argument of having per-extension dsm segments, I'd say > that a purely integer key sucks, because it's hard to manage and > debug. This way it's still not too nice, but I don't see a all that good > alternative. > > Comments about shm-toc-v1.patch: > > Since you're embedding spinlocks in struct shm_toc, this module will be > in conflict with platforms that do --disable-spinlocks, since the number > of spinlocks essentially needs to be predetermined there. I personally > still think the solution to that is getting rid of --disable-spinlocks.
Yep. We can either deprecate --disable-spinlocks, or we can add an API that is the reverse of S_INIT_LOCK(). > I vote for removing all the shm_toc_estimator() knowledge from the > header, there seems little reason to expose it that way. That just > exposes unneccessary details and makes fixes after releases harder > (requiring extensions to recompile). Function call costs hardly can > matter, right? Oh, you're saying to make it a function rather than a macro? Sure, I could do that. > Do you assume that lookup speed isn't that important? I have a bit of a > hard time imagining that linear search over the keys isn't going to bite > us. At the least there should be a comment somewhere documenting that > the indented usecase is having a relatively few keys. Well, as previously noted, in the use cases I imagine for this, it'll be nworkers + somesmallconstant. I can add a comment to that effect. > Wouldn't it make sense to have a function that does the combined job of > shm_toc_insert() and shm_toc_allocate()? We could, but I don't really feel compelled. It's not hard to call them individually if that's the behavior you happen to want. > What's the assumption about the use of the magic in create/attach? Just > statically defined things in user code? Yeah. > Ok, cooking now, then I'll have a look at the queue itself, Thanks. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (firstname.lastname@example.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers