Robert Haas <> writes:
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Tom Lane <> wrote:
>> Robert Haas <> writes:
>>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Tom Lane <> wrote:
>>>> The problem with that approach is that then you are talking about building
>>>> duplicate copies of entire layers of the system.

>>> Urgh.  Does ruleutils.c really depend on everything in namespace.c?

>> Indirectly, probably most of it.  For example, it uses format_type_be()
>> which depends on TypeIsVisible(), and it uses func_get_detail()
>> which depends on FuncnameGetCandidates().  And it's those intermediate
>> functions that are really bloating the depends-on footprint.
>> But really the killer point here is that it uses SPI in some places.
>> I've always wondered whether that was a good design choice, but right
>> now that implicates just about the whole backend.

> Ouch.

> Well, I think the first thing to do here might be to reconsider
> whether the footprint could be cut down.  Removing the dependency on
> SPI seems like a good idea even if we do nothing else.  Nailing the
> catalogs to a snapshot isn't crazy - the logical decoding stuff does
> it already - but having such a wide dependency footprint does not seem
> especially good.

Meh.  I'd be the first to say that probably a lot of that is because it
was convenient; but I don't see any way to avoid it without duplicating
vast quantities of code, which does not sound like a great idea from a
maintainability standpoint.  And have we mentioned the fact that some of
this code looks directly at the catalogs because there's no suitable

Really I think the idea of fixing this with an alternate syscache is
a nonstarter.

                        regards, tom lane

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