On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Etsuro Fujita <fujita.ets...@lab.ntt.co.jp>

> On 2016/06/22 18:16, Ashutosh Bapat wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Etsuro Fujita
>> <fujita.ets...@lab.ntt.co.jp <mailto:fujita.ets...@lab.ntt.co.jp>> wrote:
>     I think we could address this in another way once we support
>>     deparsing subqueries; rewrite the remote query into something that
>>     wouldn't need the CASE WHEN conversion.  For example, we currently
>> have:
>>     postgres=# explain verbose select ft2 from ft1 left join ft2 on
>>     ft1.a = ft2.a;
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>      Foreign Scan  (cost=100.00..110.04 rows=1 width=32)
>>        Output: ft2.*
>>        Relations: (public.ft1) LEFT JOIN (public.ft2)
>>        Remote SQL: SELECT CASE WHEN r2.* IS NOT NULL THEN ROW(r2.a,
>>     r2.b) END FROM (public.t1 r1 LEFT JOIN public.t2 r2 ON (((r1.a =
>>     r2.a))))
>>     (4 rows)
>>     However, if we support deparsing subqueries, the remote query in the
>>     above example could be rewritten into something like this:
>>     SELECT ss.c2 FROM t1 LEFT JOIN (SELECT t2.a, ROW(a, b) FROM t2)
>>     ss(c1, c2) ON (t1.a = ss.c1);
>>     So we would no longer need "CASE WHEN r2.* IS NOT NULL THEN
>>     ROW(r2.a, r2.b) END" in the target list in the remote query.
> Right. Although, it means that the query processor at the other end has
>> to do extra work for pulling up the subqueries.
> Yeah, that's right.  But this approach seems not so ugly...
>     For the CASE WHEN conversion for a system column other than ctid, we
>>     could also address this by replacing the whole-row reference in the
>>     IS NOT NULL condition in that conversion with the system column
>>     reference.
> That would not work again as the system column reference would make
>> sense locally but may not be available at the foreign server e.g.
>> foreign table targeting a view a tableoid is requested.
> Maybe I'm confused, but I think that in the system-column case it's the
> user's responsibility to specify system columns for foreign tables in a
> local query only when that makes sense on the remote end, as shown in the
> below counter example:
> postgres=# create foreign table fv1 (a int, b int) server myserver options
> (table_name 'v1');
> postgres=# select ctid, * from fv1;
> ERROR:  column "ctid" does not exist
> CONTEXT:  Remote SQL command: SELECT a, b, ctid FROM public.v1

But a ctid, when available, would rightly get nullified when referenced as
a column of table. What happens with the other system columns is we 0 them
out locally, whether they are available at the foreign server or not. We
never try to check whether they are available at the foreign server or not.
If we use such column's column name to decide whether to report 0 or null
and if that column is not available at the foreign table, we will get
error. I think we should avoid that. Those column anyway do not make any

Best Wishes,
Ashutosh Bapat
EnterpriseDB Corporation
The Postgres Database Company

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