On January 12, 2017 10:50:18 AM PST, Stephen Frost <sfr...@snowman.net> wrote:
>* Andres Freund (and...@anarazel.de) wrote:
>> On 2017-01-12 13:40:50 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
>> > * Jim Nasby (jim.na...@bluetreble.com) wrote:
>> > > The way I see it, either one person can spend an hour or whatever
>> > > creating an extension once, or every postgres install that's
>> > > any of these functions now has yet another hurdle to upgrading.
>> > 
>> > I just don't buy this argument, at all.  These functions names are
>> > certainly not the only things we're changing with PG10 and serious
>> > monitoring/backup/administration tools are almost certainly going
>> > have quite a bit to adjust to with the new release, and that isn't
>> > to anyone who works with PG.
>> By that argument we can just do arbitrary backward incompat changes. 
>> should aspire to be better than we've been in the past, not use that
>> past as an excuse for not even trying.
>When they're changes that are primairly going to affect
>monitoring/backup/administration tools, yes, I do think we can make
>about arbitrary backward-incompatible changes.
>As Robert mentioned, and I agree with, changing things which will
>regular application usage of PG is a different story and one we should
>be more cautious about.

I find it very hard to understand the justification for that, besides that it's 
strengthening external projects providing monitoring, backup, etc in a 
compatible way.


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