On 04/30/2017 09:46 AM, Andres Freund wrote:

On 2017-04-30 13:58:14 +0800, Craig Ringer wrote:
We have OFFSET 0 for anyone really depending on it, and at least when you
read that you know to go "wtf" and look at the manual, wheras the CTE fence
behaviour is invisible and silent.

I don't think that's a good idea.  What if you need to prevent inlining
of something that actually needs an offset? What if the behaviour of
offset is ever supposed to change?  Relying more on that seems to just
be repeating the mistake around CTEs.

I agree with this. But OFFSET 0 would force people to modify the queries anyway, so why not just introduce a new keyword instead? Something like:


But I think something like that was proposed not too long ago, and did not make it for some reason.

There's a lot of other CTE improvements that would be great. Say, being able to define indexes on them, but that's really a separate topic.


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