Ühel kenal päeval, E, 2006-06-26 kell 10:50, kirjutas Bruce Momjian:
> Hannu Krosing wrote:
> > ?hel kenal p?eval, E, 2006-06-26 kell 14:56, kirjutas Martijn van
> > Oosterhout:
> > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 07:17:31AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > Correct!  We use the same pointers used by normal UPDATEs, except we set
> > > > a bit on the old tuple indicating it is a single-index tuple, and we
> > > > don't create index entries for the new tuple.  Index scan routines will
> > > > need to be taught about the new chains, but because only one tuple in
> > > > the chain is visible to a single backend, the callers should not need to
> > > > be modified.
> > > 
> > > I suppose we would also change the index_getmulti() function to return
> > > a set of ctids plus flags so the caller knows to follow the chains,
> > > right? 
> > 
> > It is probably better to always return the pointer to the head of CITC
> > chain (the one an index points to) and do extra visibility checks and
> > chain-following on each access. This would keep the change internal to
> > tuple fetching functions.
> So index_getnext() traverses the chain and returns one member per call. 
> Makes sense.  Just realize you are in a single index entry returning
> multiple tuples.  We will need some record keeping to track that.

Maybe we need to push visibility checks further down, so that
index_getnext() returns only the one heap row that is visible.

> > > And for bitmap index scans you would only remember the page in
> > > the case of such a tuple, since you can't be sure the exact ctid you've
> > > got is the one you want.
> > 
> > no, you should only use the pointer to CITC head outside tuple access
> > funtions. And this pointer to CITC head is what is always passed to
> > those access functions/macros.
> > 
> > The VACUUM would run its passes thus:
> > 
> > pass 1: run over heap, collect pointers to single dead tuples, and fully
> > dead CITC chains (fully dead = no live tuples on this page). Clean up
> > old tuples from CITC chains and move live tuples around so that CITC
> > points to oldest possibly visible (not vacuumed) tuple. Doing this there
> > frees us from need to collect a separate set of pointers for those. Or
> > have you planned that old tuples from CITC chains are collected on the
> > go/as needed ? Of course we could do both.
> Non-visible CITC members should be freed during an UPDATE on the same
> page, so vacuum doesn't have to be involved.


> > pass 2: clean indexes based on ctid from pass 1
> > 
> > pass 3: clean heap based on ctid from pass 1
> > 
> > If yo do it this way, you dont need to invent new data structures to
> > pass extra info about CITC internals to passes 2 and 3
> > 
> > On more thing - when should free space map be notified about free space
> > in pages with CITC chains ?
> Uh, well, I am thinking we only free CITC space when we are going to use
> it for an UPDATE, rather than free things while doing an operation.  It
> is good to keep the cleanup overhead out of the main path as much as
> possible.

So vacuum should only remove dead CITC chains and leave the ones with
live tuples to CITC internal use ?

That would also suggest that pages having live CITC chains and less than
N% of free space should mot be reported to FSM.

> Also, seems I can't spell algorithms very well:
>         Definition:  Single-Index-Tuple Chain (SITC)
>                                                  -
> Thinking of vacuum, right now it does these cleanups:
>       o  non-visible UPDATEs on the same page with no key changes
>       o  non-visible UPDATEs on the same page with key changes
>       o  non-visible UPDATEs on different pages
>       o  DELETEs
>       o  aborted transactions
> The big question is what percentage of dead space is the first one?  My
> guess is 65%.

Can be from 0% to 99.9%, very much dependent on application.

Hannu Krosing
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