On Sun, 29 July 2001, "Tasnim Ahmed" wrote:

> 
> Hello:
> 
> Finally, I tried pgui again and this time it did run on my XF86 box :)
> But I see many ongoing changes which are holding me from jumping into any
> PIM apps :(
> 
> The best Kernel/ROM I have for Helio does not has TCP/IP so I was happy to
> see unix sockets there but clients were unable to find the server, ofcourse
> ther must be something to change them to unix sockets as well.

This isn't really documented anywhere...
You have to compile libpgui with the CONFIG_UNIX_SOCKET constant defined. There's not 
really an automatic way to do this yet. I see the current unix socket support more as 
a hack than a real solution. I'd like to implement modular network code on the client 
and server, so the server could listen on multiple connection types and the client 
could automatically select the fastest method. Not sure when I'll get around to 
this... It makes sense to just make all Helio apps use domain sockets though.

If you're interested in using TCP/IP for other purposes, the kernel I released in that 
original Helio ROM works with TCP/IP.

> 
> If anyone is working or has made any designs of PIMs I'll be interested as I
> think all PIMs should follow some integrity, like mantaining DOB and
> Aniversaries in Addressbook and getting appropriate shedules generated (like
> Yahoo!) is better rather than doing everything everywhere.

I haven't used many PIM apps, so this might require more research. I have seen and 
used the built-in PIM programs in WinCE and PalmOS though, and I like the design of 
the PalmOS PIM programs. I have heard of some popular 3rd party PIM apps for PalmOS 
like Datebook3 that might be worth investigating.

As far as a common database system, I think this is a requirement. I know that when 
using PalmOS I always wished that the Datebook and Todo list programs could display 
each other's data.
Maybe there is already an open source project to do this?

> 
> Moreover, Micah can guide us when to jump into pgui specific code. Unix
> sockets, virtual keyboard, lcdmono theme, etc. I think is cool enough to
> start for an entire Helio / VR3 / VR5 etc. suite of applications under 400 ~
> 500 KB. Ofcourse standard dialogs will provide good utility as well.

The Date Picker dialog is almost done. Just a few bugs to work out. I should be 
finishing it and posting screenshots in an hour or two.

> 
> Great work for the performance! I would say but you need to see it running
> on a uCimm or Helio to apreciate it.

And hopefully I'll be able to optimize it further. This is exciting though! After I 
finish the PGL launcher app (it is very high on my todo list) and we get some PIM apps 
running, this could make PicoGUI on Linux a usable system for handhelds!

> 
> -tasnim
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