On Tue, 31 July 2001, "Tasnim Ahmed" wrote:
>
> 1. The hardware buttons work but they just show a message on the console.
> the silscreen works and he used the 1,2,3 button to display a clock, and the
> kbd one to show his microwin based virtual keyboard.
Ok.
>
> 2. I have flashed VTOS for the time being till I get started on some PIMs or
> at least crude spreadsheet app to still keep my self organized (I have only
> one PDA :( ) I am using PicoGUI under X on linux PC, thats why I was more
> concerned.
Ah, this is my fault! I developed pgboard on my PowerPC laptop, and it worked fine. I
just tested it on my x86 desktop and it has exactly the symptoms you described. It's
probably an endian issue in kbcompile.pl. I'll fix it.
>
> -tasnim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Micah Dowty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Pgui-devel] Ok now it runs on my X :)
>
>
> > On Mon, 30 July 2001, "Tasnim Ahmed" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Your helio kernel has buggy serial port hence I can not use Zmodem
> transfer
> > > on it, ppp never worked too, just saw ser2net package will try that too,
> the
> > > ROM image by ccyau (he just disappeared some time in January) that I use
> has
> > > zmodem working and it has the full file system intact across reboots. (I
> am
> > > not kidding) even through battery changes but it lacks battery status
> /proc
> > > entry and TCP/IP so I am thinking of uploading pgui into RAM of that
> running
> > > image and using it through unix sockets. But first after PIM issues are
> > > decided.
> >
> > Ah, the tough part always seems to be getting everything to work at the
> same time :)
> > The persistant file system across reboots is definitely a must for a
> usable system. Do the hardware buttons work? When the hardware buttons work
> in Linux we could set them up as application launcher buttons.
> >
> > This sounds like it might be a job for the linux-vr kernel maintainers. I
> don't guess there are any left that use Helio?
> >
> > >
> > > I am getting hardluck with pgboard :( in case of qwerty some lines are
> on
> > > screen, but in case of fitality it seems like a button less minesweeper,
> I
> > > mean there is no PNM displayed. I tried lcdmono, nifty3d and aqua
> themes.
> >
> > I will test this with my Helio and see if I can get it to work. Just for
> consistency, what kernel are you using now? It would be helpful to have a
> CVS environment for working on PicoGUI distros for the Helio. I'll see if I
> can get the Pico/Linux build system to work, then we can use it.
> >
> > >
> > > -tasnim
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Micah Dowty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 11:46 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Pgui-devel] Ok now it runs on my X :)
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Sun, 29 July 2001, "Tasnim Ahmed" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello:
> > > > >
> > > > > Finally, I tried pgui again and this time it did run on my XF86 box
> :)
> > > > > But I see many ongoing changes which are holding me from jumping
> into
> > > any
> > > > > PIM apps :(
> > > > >
> > > > > The best Kernel/ROM I have for Helio does not has TCP/IP so I was
> happy
> > > to
> > > > > see unix sockets there but clients were unable to find the server,
> > > ofcourse
> > > > > ther must be something to change them to unix sockets as well.
> > > >
> > > > This isn't really documented anywhere...
> > > > You have to compile libpgui with the CONFIG_UNIX_SOCKET constant
> defined.
> > > There's not really an automatic way to do this yet. I see the current
> unix
> > > socket support more as a hack than a real solution. I'd like to
> implement
> > > modular network code on the client and server, so the server could
> listen on
> > > multiple connection types and the client could automatically select the
> > > fastest method. Not sure when I'll get around to this... It makes sense
> to
> > > just make all Helio apps use domain sockets though.
> > > >
> > > > If you're interested in using TCP/IP for other purposes, the kernel I
> > > released in that original Helio ROM works with TCP/IP.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone is working or has made any designs of PIMs I'll be
> interested
> > > as I
> > > > > think all PIMs should follow some integrity, like mantaining DOB and
> > > > > Aniversaries in Addressbook and getting appropriate shedules
> generated
> > > (like
> > > > > Yahoo!) is better rather than doing everything everywhere.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't used many PIM apps, so this might require more research. I
> have
> > > seen and used the built-in PIM programs in WinCE and PalmOS though, and
> I
> > > like the design of the PalmOS PIM programs. I have heard of some popular
> 3rd
> > > party PIM apps for PalmOS like Datebook3 that might be worth
> investigating.
> > > >
> > > > As far as a common database system, I think this is a requirement. I
> know
> > > that when using PalmOS I always wished that the Datebook and Todo list
> > > programs could display each other's data.
> > > > Maybe there is already an open source project to do this?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Moreover, Micah can guide us when to jump into pgui specific code.
> Unix
> > > > > sockets, virtual keyboard, lcdmono theme, etc. I think is cool
> enough to
> > > > > start for an entire Helio / VR3 / VR5 etc. suite of applications
> under
> > > 400 ~
> > > > > 500 KB. Ofcourse standard dialogs will provide good utility as well.
> > > >
> > > > The Date Picker dialog is almost done. Just a few bugs to work out. I
> > > should be finishing it and posting screenshots in an hour or two.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Great work for the performance! I would say but you need to see it
> > > running
> > > > > on a uCimm or Helio to apreciate it.
> > > >
> > > > And hopefully I'll be able to optimize it further. This is exciting
> > > though! After I finish the PGL launcher app (it is very high on my todo
> > > list) and we get some PIM apps running, this could make PicoGUI on Linux
> a
> > > usable system for handhelds!
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -tasnim
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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