John

you wrote:
>
>java would be pretty hard on the helio. it's a big-ass hog on my desktop 
>boxes -

   Absolutely true.  I'd be looking at something much smaller.  Along the 
lines of Kaffe or J2ME (which I read in the PocketLinux archives was running 
on MIPS processors.)

>i cant imagine stellar performance on the helio
>
   Heck - I can't get good performance out of Java on my desktop ;-(

>
>tho the original picolinux helio dist came from transvirtual technologies,
>the authors of kaffe', which is an open source java clone. and that ran at
>one time, i would assume.
>

   It still does.  Last month, I was able to build it for MIPS and i386 from 
source on their website.  I've still got a kaffe mips binary lying around.  
This week I'll try to take dist-helio out of CVS and recreate a rom image 
including kaffe.

>despite that.....
>
>i feel that a lightweight interpreter is the way to go. if waba is as
>light as a scheme or a forth and codes like java, then it seems like a
>bright idea.
>

   I'll poke around, get more info about Waba and let y'all know what I find 
out.

>the other thing to try would be the gjc, that would make native exe's.
>but i doubt that it's ported to the helio-linux2.X-mipsel architecture :-)
>

   Ummmm - time for me to ask a stupid question - I do this alot ;-(

   I'm not familiar with gjc, but it sounds like an i386 based MIPS cross 
compiler.  If it is, what's the difference between it and the vhl-tools 
cross compilation tools?


   Mark

>


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