2013/5/23 Camillo Bruni <[email protected]>

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> On 2013-05-23, at 10:12, Norbert Hartl <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Am 23.05.2013 um 09:53 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]>:
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> >> Hmm, there are different views possible on this.
> >>
> > Absolutely!
> >
> >> We should never give up the possibility of building/constructing really
> small images. There has been massive work done on modularisation, unloading
> and stripping. Let's keep that option/route open.
> >>
> > That's my only point. Having tests packaged separately just opens the
> possibility to make things smaller.
> >
> >> I personally doubt how much difference tests actually make compared to
> other stuff, but that does not mean that they should no longer be
> unloadable.
> >>
> > agreed.
> >
> >> I stopped trying to minimise production images, because it is not worth
> the trouble: it is a lot of work, memory is relatively cheap and I need the
> tools to remain present, just in case I want to debug. Even running tests
> is a kind of debugging and/or quality control: a way to confirm that the
> production image is (still) working OK. This is all useful and a small
> price to pay, IMHO.
> >>
> > That is the funny part in this discussion. I stopped minimizing them as
> well. On most images I use RFB and like to have the full fledge
> installation being present. I stopped even to use cleanUpForProduction
> because it removes SUnit. I hook up SUnit to rest handlers and trigger them
> from the outside to do runtime sanity checks, e.g. used by monit.
>
> so that means nobody *actually* loads code without tests? :D (evil laugh).
>

I deploy without tests. But I dont unload it. I just have configuration to
load only code without tests.
And I think guys who try mobile development with Pharo not deploy
application with tests to apple store

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