No no no I am not discouraged far from it, just not familiar with the
process. For example I had no clue that multiple slices were encouraged,
even ones that are WIP. That definetly changes everything. 

I would love to hear you workflow on this one, for example do you also
commit your own changes to smalltalkhub for backup ? Also whats the
diffirence between a slice and a regular commit ? Why you advise people not
to save the image with their changes (I assume its for testing the slice ) ?

I would love to contribute to pharo , I really like this community cause has
been more than friendly to me and I love pharo of course since you seem to
have very similar goal to what I want to achieve with coding. I started a
project on visual live coding in python to find out that pharo was doing
already more than I was dreaming of and I left python to code for pharo .
Now my project is just to enhance pharo here and there, clean up morphic,
create a cool gui that will be easy to use, a nice help system (with
documentation of course) and an app/ library store similarly to the Apple
app store (but of course free). If some of those ideas can be integrated
inside pharo and the community wants them so much the better for me. I also
don't mind fixing the occasional bug (not my bugs, I never make bugs only
"weird" features :D ).  

Also if I can submit my slices , continue to work and resubmit any future
slices thats great for me. The problem was never waiting for a review and
integration :) I just did not want to be stopped from working because I was
waiting for a review. If I can submit multiple slices then no problemo. 


EstebanLM wrote
> please, do not take it as a disincentive to collaborate, this should be
> quite the opposite :)
> 
> I was trying to ask for some patience because when you join into a
> collaborative community, obviously the times spent on "the process" will
> be different than if you work alone. The gain is obvious, but we often
> lose from mind the price to pay (you do not control all the stages of the
> process). 
> 
> So, if you submit something, it will be some time to get the feedback
> (time to people to notice your change, to see it, etc.). Also, I was not
> talking about Marcus, Stef or me... since we are not the reviewers (that's
> also a responsibility of everybody in the community): we are just the
> integrators. 
> 
> So please, continue committing changes to the process... the review will
> come :)
> 
> btw... one thing that I usually do when working: I commit slices even if
> they are not ready. Then I continue submitting slices until work is
> done... then I move the fix to "review needed". That way you can work in
> big changes and also be preparing a SLICE for the right moment. 
> 
> cheers, 
> Esteban
> 
> 
> On Sep 23, 2013, at 11:19 AM, kilon <

> [email protected]

> > wrote:
> 
>> EstebanLM wrote
>>> also, putting your code in "review needed" would help to reviewers to
>>> notice that you submitted something :)
>>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <
>> 
>>> estebanlm@
>> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>> you submitted yesterday... a sunday... and we have a not so big
>>>> community, and all of us has a lot of tasks and things to do.
>>>> you should be a bit more patient :)
>>>> 
>>>> Esteban
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:56 AM, kilon <
>> 
>>> [email protected]
>> 
>>> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I take it from the silence , there is no interest in my code :D 
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's fine I will create my own HelpTopic class and keep it
>>>>> independent
>>>>> from pharo internal libs so I dont have to bother people with slices
>>>>> they
>>>>> don't deem important :) Makes my life easier too ;)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> No problemo this is why I submitted this slice to see how the overall
>> process work and gain some experience so when the time comes to fix a
>> pharo
>> bug I can do it properly.
>> 
>> yeah this is why I decided to keep code bases separate. I don't see a
>> need
>> for me to wait so long for a review to my code cause I will want to move
>> on
>> eventually. And plus I create more work for you and as you said there too
>> few of you and you already very busy. And I totally understand that and I
>> am
>> here to make your life easier and not harder ;)
>> 
>> So its no problem I will continue the effort alone, and ping this list
>> back
>> when I have something substantial to show.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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