On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:41 PM, kilon <[email protected]> wrote:

> No no no I am not discouraged far from it, just not familiar with the
> process. For example I had no clue that multiple slices were encouraged,
> even ones that are WIP. That definetly changes everything. 
> 
> I would love to hear you workflow on this one, for example do you also
> commit your own changes to smalltalkhub for backup ?

a slice is just a bunch of packages but this is important for us to know which 
packages work with which other ones.

> Also whats the diffirence between a slice and a regular commit ? Why you 
> advise people not
> to save the image with their changes (I assume its for testing the slice ) ?
> 
> I would love to contribute to pharo , I really like this community cause has
> been more than friendly to me and I love pharo of course since you seem to
> have very similar goal to what I want to achieve with coding. I started a
> project on visual live coding in python to find out that pharo was doing
> already more than I was dreaming of and I left python to code for pharo .
> Now my project is just to enhance pharo here and there, clean up morphic,
> create a cool gui that will be easy to use, a nice help system (with
> documentation of course) and an app/ library store similarly to the Apple
> app store (but of course free). If some of those ideas can be integrated
> inside pharo and the community wants them so much the better for me. I also
> don't mind fixing the occasional bug (not my bugs, I never make bugs only
> "weird" features :D ).  
> 
> Also if I can submit my slices , continue to work and resubmit any future
> slices thats great for me. The problem was never waiting for a review and
> integration :) I just did not want to be stopped from working because I was
> waiting for a review. If I can submit multiple slices then no problemo. 

yes

> 
> 
> EstebanLM wrote
>> please, do not take it as a disincentive to collaborate, this should be
>> quite the opposite :)
>> 
>> I was trying to ask for some patience because when you join into a
>> collaborative community, obviously the times spent on "the process" will
>> be different than if you work alone. The gain is obvious, but we often
>> lose from mind the price to pay (you do not control all the stages of the
>> process). 
>> 
>> So, if you submit something, it will be some time to get the feedback
>> (time to people to notice your change, to see it, etc.). Also, I was not
>> talking about Marcus, Stef or me... since we are not the reviewers (that's
>> also a responsibility of everybody in the community): we are just the
>> integrators. 
>> 
>> So please, continue committing changes to the process... the review will
>> come :)
>> 
>> btw... one thing that I usually do when working: I commit slices even if
>> they are not ready. Then I continue submitting slices until work is
>> done... then I move the fix to "review needed". That way you can work in
>> big changes and also be preparing a SLICE for the right moment. 
>> 
>> cheers, 
>> Esteban
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 11:19 AM, kilon &lt;
> 
>> [email protected]
> 
>> &gt; wrote:
>> 
>>> EstebanLM wrote
>>>> also, putting your code in "review needed" would help to reviewers to
>>>> notice that you submitted something :)
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Esteban Lorenzano &lt;
>>> 
>>>> estebanlm@
>>> 
>>>> &gt; wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> you submitted yesterday... a sunday... and we have a not so big
>>>>> community, and all of us has a lot of tasks and things to do.
>>>>> you should be a bit more patient :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Esteban
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:56 AM, kilon &lt;
>>> 
>>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>>> &gt; wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I take it from the silence , there is no interest in my code :D 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's fine I will create my own HelpTopic class and keep it
>>>>>> independent
>>>>>> from pharo internal libs so I dont have to bother people with slices
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> don't deem important :) Makes my life easier too ;)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Nabble.com.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> No problemo this is why I submitted this slice to see how the overall
>>> process work and gain some experience so when the time comes to fix a
>>> pharo
>>> bug I can do it properly.
>>> 
>>> yeah this is why I decided to keep code bases separate. I don't see a
>>> need
>>> for me to wait so long for a review to my code cause I will want to move
>>> on
>>> eventually. And plus I create more work for you and as you said there too
>>> few of you and you already very busy. And I totally understand that and I
>>> am
>>> here to make your life easier and not harder ;)
>>> 
>>> So its no problem I will continue the effort alone, and ping this list
>>> back
>>> when I have something substantial to show.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Nabble.com.
>>> 
> 
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