Nicolas Cellier wrote:
Pushing the newcomers argument: if newcomers are used to using if then else
and switch case, why did you deprecate usage caseOf:?
If newcomers argument counts, shouldn't we remove text editing, browser,
etc..., go back to file based development and create an eclipse (or emacs)
plugin?

I saw very good arguments for proportional: more readable/natural/more text
on the line...
So I'm inlne with Pavel,

Is there any argument for fixed space (but the hypothetical newcomer).
There are some times when we must educate rather than imitate.



Links [1] & [2] provide some good points both ways. I agree that we ultimately want to educate - but sometimes its good to avoid educating too-much at once. I think the point is that fonts are not a "distinctive" feature Smalltalk, although Eliot argued Smalltalk it has a tighter binding that other languages. Even so, lets not deter newcomers on the basis of fonts before we hook them with experience of Smalltalk's advantages. Before you consider glossing over this thinking "it shouldn't be a big deal to newcomers, they should get over it" consider the emotion evoked in this thread. One significant cognitive rule of persuasion is "that you cannot use logic to argue a decision made on the basis emotion". I think it is useful for newcomers to have time to absorb the alien nature of Smalltalk without the distraction of acclimatising to a different font regime.

Some interesting points I picked up.

* Most proportional fonts are designed for prose and only little punctuation (which in turn is usually one or rarely two characters). The C family of languages have lots of punctuation, which simply does not look good [with proportional] and is harder to read than necessary. [2] [and Smalltalk is more like prose.]

* [With proportional...] feel better about using longer, more descriptive variable names (maybe because they scan better, maybe because the horizontal size of the text is compressed) [2]

* All it takes is a few hours of trying to figure out why a search isn't finding something because you have 2 spaces instead of 1 in your literal, to realize you should use Monospace fonts. [2]

* With monospace you can select rectangular sections [1] Not sure how well that relates to Smalltalk.

Now having tried the directions provided by Pavel to sample the new font, upon review of a small amount of code, I quite like the font. In comparison the proportional font seems too compressed. However this could be resolved for the proportional font by making the 'spaces' wider. (One of the central features of graphic design is liberal use of whitespace.) In the end I am sitting on the fence. Perhaps there just needs to be a welcome screen that with a big switch easily thrown between the choices, along with a couple of others like Smart Quotes that are foreign and irritating to newcomers (and even though I sometime try again, I still struggle with and have to turn off)

cheers -ben

[1] http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/5473/does-anyone-prefer-proportional-fonts [2] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/218623/why-use-monospace-fonts-in-your-ide



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