Esteban,
I'm checking with 2.0 so it may be the reason for the lack of Source
Code / Source Sans in my image :)
I'll wait for the RPackage update on 3.0 and I also have to clean my
settings for 3.0.
Thierry
Le 17/10/2013 11:40, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
On Oct 17, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Goubier Thierry <[email protected]> wrote:
Once the correct fonts are installed, the pdf looks very different :)
Revised judgement:
Source code pro is not bad for a monospaced font.
Source sans pro is impressive of density (9), and has this additional
readability on DejaVu sans for the $l.
I'll take Source Sans Pro, then.
But Pharo is not seeing it in the dialog. Is that because I did a user specific
install of the fonts (and not system wide) and Pharo is not checking the
user-specific fonts?
yes, that's exactly what happens :)
but also pharo should contain those fonts (it should not need an
installation)... currently I'm working on figure out why that does not work.
Esteban
Thierry
Le 17/10/2013 11:11, Goubier Thierry a écrit :
I'll do like you because...
I only managed to install the source code pro font so far (no default
install in ubuntu) and Pharo doesn't see it (LibreOffice does). I'll
look for the source sans pro download as well.
(May explain the pdf issues if the fonts are not embedded in the pdf
document).
Thierry
Le 17/10/2013 10:57, Igor Stasenko a écrit :
ok i looked at .xlxslsx file
at least, in google preview it looks more or less close to the truth :)
and i can say that Source Sans Pro is a winner ( to my taste ).
I like that for 'i' in it don't closes together as in 'it', comparing to
dejavu , where it does.
It reads very clear yet compact.
On 17 October 2013 10:43, Igor Stasenko <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 17 October 2013 10:47, Goubier Thierry <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Le 17/10/2013 10:29, Igor Stasenko a écrit :
hmm.. i have suspicion that it is actually adobe who can't
handle the
font properly..
because in some examples for source code pro font, the
adjacent letters
jump onto each other.
i don't believe it is that bad (see attached)Inline images 1
Adobe or the viewer? I used evince to view it, not acrobat
reader. It may point to incorrect spacing information in Source
Sans Pro (I have not the errors you see in Source Code Pro).
Who is in charge of the Source Pro font? Which typographer? Oh,
Adobe apparently. If they can't handle it properly...
i am far from blaming adobe, just wanted to say that in my viewer it
does not shows things
properly, because when rendered in pharo it don't have such problems.
so i cannot have decent comparison..
Thierry
On 17 October 2013 09:28, Goubier Thierry
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>__>> wrote:
Excellent, I like the comparison a lot! Thanks!
My take is:
- Unable to like Source Code Pro 9 (and it's so wide);
- Source Sans Pro 9 has spacing issues (16r, the r is
too close) and
reading issues (it's the worse for the lL|i characters)
- Source sans Pro 10 is better than 9 (but what with
the 2x space?)
Overall, I'd stay with DejaVu Sans 9 based on this
sample. In my
opinion, the best compromise density / readability.
Thierry
Le 16/10/2013 19:56, [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
Goubier Thierry wrote:
I'd be more impressed if the argument was
helping me distinguish
between | and l.
Yes. It is designed to do that. Some common
failings of
monospaced fonts
are noted [1] and dealt with. There comment section
is also
interesting.
The attached PDFs are the result of getting the
urge to compare
a broad
coverage of code examples (taken from "Terse Guide
to Squeak")
against
three fonts:
* DejaVu Sans 9 point
* Source Code Pro [1] [2] 9 point
* Source Sans Pro [3] [4] 9 point & 10 point, since
the width of
10 was
the same as the others at 9.
Also attached is the source excel file.
cheers -ben
[1]
http://blogs.adobe.com/____typblography/2012/09/source-____code-pro.html
<http://blogs.adobe.com/__typblography/2012/09/source-__code-pro.html>
<http://blogs.adobe.com/__typblography/2012/09/source-__code-pro.html
<http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/2012/09/source-code-pro.html>>
[2]
http://sourceforge.net/____projects/sourcecodepro.adobe/____files/
<http://sourceforge.net/__projects/sourcecodepro.adobe/__files/>
<http://sourceforge.net/__projects/sourcecodepro.adobe/__files/
<http://sourceforge.net/projects/sourcecodepro.adobe/files/>>
[3]
http://blogs.adobe.com/____typblography/2012/08/source-____sans-pro.html
<http://blogs.adobe.com/__typblography/2012/08/source-__sans-pro.html>
<http://blogs.adobe.com/__typblography/2012/08/source-__sans-pro.html
<http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/2012/08/source-sans-pro.html>>
[4]
http://sourceforge.net/____projects/sourcesans.adobe/____postdownload?source=dlp
<http://sourceforge.net/__projects/sourcesans.adobe/__postdownload?source=dlp>
<http://sourceforge.net/__projects/sourcesans.adobe/__postdownload?source=dlp
<http://sourceforge.net/projects/sourcesans.adobe/postdownload?source=dlp>>
I'l let you try, then :)
Thierry
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