I don't get why C is not old / deprecated / obsolete . Afterall its as old as Smalltalk
Who really uses modern languages ? C - 1972 Python - 1991 C++ - 1983 Pascal - 1970 .NET - 2002 Lisp - 1958 Java - 1995 Ruby - 1995 Perl - 1987 Visual Basic - 1991 Javascript - 1995 Objective C- 1983 PHP - 1995 The vast majority of all popular languages out there are at least 20 years old. Thats ancient history. They are not old, they are dinosaurs. Even Clojure is 7 years old. The problem I see here is that the vast majority of things people are going to like in Pharo on a basic level are Smalltalk features. Implementation wise Pharo has improved a lot of things, added new stuff etc etc. But if you take a look at for example Python back in 1991 and you compare it with a recent version of Python you will find tons of diffirences. Yet its still Python. Actually its impossible to run a hello world of an old python (anything previous to version 3) that will run in the recent Python. Cause they changed print "hello World" to print( "hello World") , we are talking here about fundamental changes. Personally I don't see how Pharo being 100% Smalltalk makes it unable or difficult to implement super modern and efficient new features. Languages and Software is not written in stone, it continuously evolves and improves or else people stop using it. Vim was created back in 1991 people still find awesome, modern, extremely powerful. this is from Ruby's website -> "Ruby is a language of careful balance. Its creator, Yukihiro “Matz” Matsumoto <http://www.rubyist.net/~matz/>, blended parts of his favorite languages (Perl, Smalltalk, Eiffel, Ada, and Lisp) to form a new language that balanced functional programming with imperative programming." Ruby has the right to be called Smalltalk-inspired. because thats what it is. You got every right to describe Pharo any way you like but for me Pharo is "a modern implementation of Smalltalk. A visual environment for easy direct live coding" . On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Hilaire Fernandes < [email protected]> wrote: > > > Le 16/05/2014 20:18, [email protected] a écrit : > > > > Back to the future after 30 years of spinning your wheels > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Wanting to code at the speed of tought? > > Wishing the machine was your friend and not a roadblock? > > Want to burn cash as slow as possible while maximizing your output? > > > > If so, get a copy of Pharo! It is not your (grand) daddy's Smalltalk! > > That's why I understand this argument about not advertising Smalltalk in > Pharo. > > Whatever we do or say, this huge mass of followers, once they heard > Smalltalk they fill their head with red light warning, Smalltalk = > old/deprecated/obsolete. > > For Pharo willing to socially scale = need to take this in consideration. > > Hilaire > -- > Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu > > >
