Hi Chris
2014-05-21 18:11 GMT+02:00 Chris Muller <[email protected]>: > One reason might be that Phratch is kind of redundant isn't it? > For sure, not ! > Smalltalk already has a foothold on the Pi in the form of Squeak, and > Tim Rowledge is being paid by that organization right now to improve > Scratch. So if you're interested in helping kids learn programming > with Scratch, why not check with Tim see if you can find a way help > with what he's doing..? > Yes, we already discussed about that with Tim. Our goal is not the same. I don't want to say something wrong, but Tim want to do Scratch on a recent Squeak, then including BYOB. He is working hard to integrate it on RPi. Phratch is something different: it is based on Scratch, but the goal is to be as much extendable as possible. For example, I use it for robotics. This is not possible in Scratch. Yes there is Enchanting, but it is based on a plugin if I understood well. Another goal is to access to Smalltalk code. As a good learning language, I think that using phratch should help developers to learn smalltalk, which is not a goal of Scratch. So, as I said, we already discussed with Tim, and I am sure we will reuse our work. If I remember, Tim already has a look at phratch source code. For my part, if Tim do plugins that work on RPi, I will probably use them. And I hope to meet Tim at ESUG if he will come to discuss about all of that. Cheers, Jannik > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Alexandre Bergel > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi! > > > > My point was the following: why Phratch is not included in the default > setting of Rasbian? > > > > Alexandre > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > On May 20, 2014, at 9:36 AM, jannik laval <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Probably he does not know phratch for Rasberry-Pi: > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick-RPi/ > >> > >> Cheers :) > >> > >> > >> 2014-05-20 15:32 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Bergel <[email protected]>: > >> Hi! > >> > >> A friend of mine recently bought a Raspberry pi and installed Rasbian, > a Debian-like OS for Raspberry. Squeak and Scratch are installed per > default. There is room to fill here... > >> > >> <image001.png> > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Alexandre > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ > >> École des Mines de Douai > >> Enseignant-chercheur > >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu > >> http://www.phratch.com > >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > >> > > > > > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://car.mines-douai.fr/
