2014-05-22 10:43 GMT+02:00 [email protected] <[email protected]>: > I'd say that Phratch is another kind of beast. > As it has deeper abilities to go down the system, the pragmas blocks > things etc. > > In that, this can be usable by engineers and not kids. I am seeing Phratch > as "Scratch for grown ups". > From I saw from the code and plugins etc, there has indeed been a ton of > cleanups. > > One very cool place where we would see it are in fablabs. > > e.g. Close to where I live - http://makilab.org (this thing is getting > its wings ready) - and where I'll introduce Phratch at one point. >
Thank you ! > > Jannik, you have given us a powertool. Let's use it as such! > :D Jannik > > Phil > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:50 AM, stepharo <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think that Jannik started to clean to code long before tim and he is >> not payed for that >> so at least we should respect that and do not start to blame him about >> redundancy. >> >> And cleaning Scratch is really a MUST because it is full of *&%^&%. >> To the point that the people from Scat dropped the maintenance because it >> was a NIGHTMARE. >> >> So can we respect the work of people? >> >> Stef >> >> On 21/5/14 18:11, Chris Muller wrote: >> >>> One reason might be that Phratch is kind of redundant isn't it? >>> Smalltalk already has a foothold on the Pi in the form of Squeak, and >>> Tim Rowledge is being paid by that organization right now to improve >>> Scratch. So if you're interested in helping kids learn programming >>> with Scratch, why not check with Tim see if you can find a way help >>> with what he's doing..? >>> >>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Alexandre Bergel >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> My point was the following: why Phratch is not included in the default >>>> setting of Rasbian? >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 20, 2014, at 9:36 AM, jannik laval <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Probably he does not know phratch for Rasberry-Pi: >>>>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/ >>>>> Phratch-OneClick-RPi/ >>>>> >>>>> Cheers :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2014-05-20 15:32 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Bergel <[email protected]>: >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> A friend of mine recently bought a Raspberry pi and installed Rasbian, >>>>> a Debian-like OS for Raspberry. Squeak and Scratch are installed per >>>>> default. There is room to fill here... >>>>> >>>>> <image001.png> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>>>> École des Mines de Douai >>>>> Enseignant-chercheur >>>>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>>>> http://www.phratch.com >>>>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://car.mines-douai.fr/
