"I could not agree more with you" means that I agree with you 100%. Its one of the strange things of language to use a negative to imply a positive statement :D
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[email protected]> wrote: > @Kilon, you said almost the same thing, how comes that you do not agree > with me? > > Uko > > > On 16 Jun 2014, at 10:03, kilon alios <[email protected]> wrote: > > I could not agree more with you > > I am very much against "One ring to Rule them All" , it did not work for > Sauron in Lord of the Rings for the exact reason why its a bad idea to put > all your eggs in one basket. Once it fails in a fundamental level you are > screwed forever. > > People reinvent the wheel because this is how evolution works, this is how > our world works. You use what you have and you add something new to the > recipe and hope for the best. > > It also gives the ability to users to choose the right tool for them. A > developer of a Library can never be more smart than its users because he > does not know their needs and cannot anticipate their personal desires and > workflows. > > I have never had the pleasure of using a Logging system, but using > Announcements sounds like a way I would go with it if it was me. Certainly > will give it a try thanks Tudor. > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> On 16 Jun 2014, at 08:52, stepharo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I like very much the new energy people are putting into creating the >> SystemLogger engine for Pharo. I think this is a specifically important >> area for which we have to have a solution out of the box. At the same time, >> I also think that Pharo provides an infrastructure that makes room for >> ideas that are otherwise hard to reach in other languages or environments. >> >> >> Why Java does not have announcements? >> >> Stef asked for collaborations around this project, so here is my >> literally small contribution: a rather different logging engine. >> >> I do not see how this contribute to SystemLogger. So at least please do >> not say it, respect the amount of time I spent >> design it and working with Norbert. >> >> It is called Beacon, it is based entirely on Announcements, it has ~200 >> lines of code, it has no tags or levels, and in my opinion it is fully >> functional. >> >> You can see a detailed description here including some informal >> comparisons with SystemLogger: >> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/beacon >> >> Please let me know what you think. I would be happy to join forces to >> reach a mature solution that is both versatile and that can show how Pharo >> is different. >> >> So should we see it as a competitor to SystemLogger? >> (you will say of course not) but I do not understand. >> >> >> Just my 2 cents: >> Stef, I wouldn’t fight agains other projects, it’s natural that for >> popular environments there are different approaches to implement important >> tools. E.g. in Ruby there are few different web frameworks and I think >> logging too. And I wouldn’t be angry on Doru because he mentioned >> SystemLogger, for me the idea is that Pharo is missing decent logger, and >> there is a work being done on the big project, in a while Doru proposes >> small yet functional tool with it’s own philosophy. >> >> I’m trying to ignore my personal preferences here, and move attention to >> the point that we should make our environment modular and let people decide >> what they want to use. >> >> Uko >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >> >> >> >> > >
