Hi guys,

I was very frustrated, but as usually complaints are useless, I’ll try to be 
constructive. Maybe the problem is not about Spec itself but all the UI related 
tool-chain.

I find UI very fragile part in software design. And by now I’ve seen only 2 
very nice documentations on how to develop UI (with MVC). One was for Ruby on 
Rails, and another was for iOS applications. Documentation was straightforward: 
1) this is how your model, view and controller should look like, 2) this is how 
they have to talk, 3) other useful cases.

Now, there is description about how to do something with Spec, and it’s cool, 
but for example I always get myself caught in initialisation stuff. Spec 
intends that I provide some default solution if it’s not initialised with 
proper data. And I even cannot initialise some variables, because 
initialisation of superclass initialises widgets and they need default 
behaviour. I can move to sort of lazy initialisation stuff, but maybe there is 
some reason in making some calculator example tutorial that will show how mvc 
apps should be developed in Pharo?

Uko


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