On 18 Jun 2014, at 12:31, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I understand your frustration, but writing doc takes time.

:)

> 
> I have a more industry oriented example in polishing mode

Cool, I’m looking forward for that.

Uko

> 
> Ben
> 
> On 18 Jun 2014, at 11:40, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymc...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I was very frustrated, but as usually complaints are useless, I’ll try to be 
>> constructive. Maybe the problem is not about Spec itself but all the UI 
>> related tool-chain.
>> 
>> I find UI very fragile part in software design. And by now I’ve seen only 2 
>> very nice documentations on how to develop UI (with MVC). One was for Ruby 
>> on Rails, and another was for iOS applications. Documentation was 
>> straightforward: 1) this is how your model, view and controller should look 
>> like, 2) this is how they have to talk, 3) other useful cases.
>> 
>> Now, there is description about how to do something with Spec, and it’s 
>> cool, but for example I always get myself caught in initialisation stuff. 
>> Spec intends that I provide some default solution if it’s not initialised 
>> with proper data. And I even cannot initialise some variables, because 
>> initialisation of superclass initialises widgets and they need default 
>> behaviour. I can move to sort of lazy initialisation stuff, but maybe there 
>> is some reason in making some calculator example tutorial that will show how 
>> mvc apps should be developed in Pharo?
>> 
>> Uko
>> 
>> 
> 

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