both are integrated into the image. 
while NB has been maintained directly, athens should still be loadable (if not 
the case… we have a problem for the future :P).

yes, we are slowly moving in the opposite direction of “all maintained in the 
image”, and eventually we plan/dream to have a small kernel and a bunch of 
configurations to produce Pharo. 

now, about NB, we do not have special plans. 
it is in the image and it will be maintained as part of Pharo. 

now, since the most common use of NB is for FFI, and NB is not present in all 
platforms, we are working (Ronie, in this case) in a “unified FFI”, which will 
provide a common abstraction layer for several FFI frameworks (NB, OldFFI, 
Alien…). With that, we can choose which one of the frameworks we use depending 
on the situation (but ideally, we will maintain just one, the one that fits 
better in Pharo). 
Again… this are just ideas for the future :)

Esteban



> On 24 Nov 2014, at 23:23, Nicolai Hess <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 2014-11-24 20:41 GMT+01:00 Torsten Bergmann <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> Hi,
> 
> were is NB currently maintained? Only within the image as it is integrated
> or still with an external config and on STHub?
> 
> The reason why I ask: when I load the latest NB-Core package
> from STHub it looks like this one is outdated and back from Pharo3 day
> (trying to load it gives problems from changes in Pharo 4).
> 
> So it looks like NB was originally developed external using STHub, then 
> integrated
> into standard image and now it is only internally in-image managed. OK.
> 
> But the future goal is as far as I understood to manage more and
> more packages using external configs again.
> 
> What is the status and future plan for NB? Will the repo get
> synchronized? Or will it stay internal only?
> 
> Thx
> T.
> 
> 
> I was about to ask the same question for Athens, the packages in pharo4 and 
> sthub diverge.
> I can merge the sthub and pharo4 version for Athens (and mabe NB), I just 
> don't know what
> is the plan for the feauture, manage packages for Athens and NB in the image 
> or on sthub.
> 

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