Le 25/11/14 08:28, [email protected] a écrit :

400 megs ? O_o

Sorry
classes.
He has the seaside counter with 500 k

Le 25 nov. 2014 08:08, "stepharo" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :


        Let's see then..


    Hilaire

    Guille is spending hour one having a bootstrapped kernel based on
    pavel images. with about 400 Mb and removing dependencies.
    Everybody can help.
    We aask a student to develop a nice tools to spot wrong
    dependencies: lookat PharoExtras ToolsDependencyAnalyser
    And send fixes.
    Once the bootstrap arrives to a reasonable state we will work on
    creating configuration of for image level.
    I have been splitting (and still continuing) polymorph and
    removing some complexity.
    Now this is a *****DIFFICUL******* and not sexy (where is the
    fame?) to reduce and modularise a system.
    So if you are concerned about the size, give a try to help.


        Le 24/11/2014 21:39, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :

            well… fthis days stay with the micro-concept of image
            sizes of ancient times does not looks like a reasonable
            approach. Lots of conditions changed and nowadays RAM is
            very cheap (and even tablets has enough of them)
            but then, there are some points to observe that can help you:

            - Pharo4 will not have 32m, this is still a alpha version.
            It will be a lot smaller (I suppose a bit bigger than
            Pharo3, but not much more)
            - We are also producing the Pharo-minimal images as part
            of the process, which are stripped versions with (for now)
            6m size. Of course this one does not have a lot of things
            that has to be reintroduced if desired (like morphic), but
            I think is easy to have an image smaller than 10m with all
            you need when going production in a tablet.

            now… about small is beauty. We incorporated a lot of new
            cool stuff (many that no one will ever notice, or use),
            and we need to improve in the cleaning side… there are
            tons of things to clean or remove there.





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