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> On 26 Nov 2014, at 08:32, Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 25 Nov 2014, at 23:31, kilon alios <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2014-11-24 23:34 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>> both are integrated into the image. 
>> while NB has been maintained directly, athens should still be loadable (if 
>> not the case… we have a problem for the future :P).
>> 
>> what does that mean for athens, yes unload and loadable from the image or 
>> loadable from the sthub repository?
> 
> no idea… I guess is the same case, but I have no control over that area. 
> Igor will know better :)
> 
> Esteban
> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> yes, we are slowly moving in the opposite direction of “all maintained in 
>> the image”, and eventually we plan/dream to have a small kernel and a bunch 
>> of configurations to produce Pharo. 
>> 
>> now, about NB, we do not have special plans. 
>> it is in the image and it will be maintained as part of Pharo. 
>> 
>> now, since the most common use of NB is for FFI, and NB is not present in 
>> all platforms, we are working (Ronie, in this case) in a “unified FFI”, 
>> which will provide a common abstraction layer for several FFI frameworks 
>> (NB, OldFFI, Alien…). With that, we can choose which one of the frameworks 
>> we use depending on the situation (but ideally, we will maintain just one, 
>> the one that fits better in Pharo). 
>> Again… this are just ideas for the future :)
>> 
>> Esteban
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Nov 2014, at 23:23, Nicolai Hess <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 2014-11-24 20:41 GMT+01:00 Torsten Bergmann <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> were is NB currently maintained? Only within the image as it is integrated
>>> or still with an external config and on STHub?
>>> 
>>> The reason why I ask: when I load the latest NB-Core package
>>> from STHub it looks like this one is outdated and back from Pharo3 day
>>> (trying to load it gives problems from changes in Pharo 4).
>>> 
>>> So it looks like NB was originally developed external using STHub, then 
>>> integrated
>>> into standard image and now it is only internally in-image managed. OK.
>>> 
>>> But the future goal is as far as I understood to manage more and
>>> more packages using external configs again.
>>> 
>>> What is the status and future plan for NB? Will the repo get
>>> synchronized? Or will it stay internal only?
>>> 
>>> Thx
>>> T.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I was about to ask the same question for Athens, the packages in pharo4 and 
>>> sthub diverge.
>>> I can merge the sthub and pharo4 version for Athens (and mabe NB), I just 
>>> don't know what
>>> is the plan for the feauture, manage packages for Athens and NB in the 
>>> image or on sthub.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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