> On 25 Nov 2014, at 23:39, Nicolai Hess <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 
> 2014-11-24 23:34 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> both are integrated into the image. 
> while NB has been maintained directly, athens should still be loadable (if 
> not the case… we have a problem for the future :P).
> 
> what does that mean for athens, yes unload and loadable from the image or 
> loadable from the sthub repository?

no idea… I guess is the same case, but I have no control over that area. 
Igor will know better :)

Esteban


> 
>  
> 
> yes, we are slowly moving in the opposite direction of “all maintained in the 
> image”, and eventually we plan/dream to have a small kernel and a bunch of 
> configurations to produce Pharo. 
> 
> now, about NB, we do not have special plans. 
> it is in the image and it will be maintained as part of Pharo. 
> 
> now, since the most common use of NB is for FFI, and NB is not present in all 
> platforms, we are working (Ronie, in this case) in a “unified FFI”, which 
> will provide a common abstraction layer for several FFI frameworks (NB, 
> OldFFI, Alien…). With that, we can choose which one of the frameworks we use 
> depending on the situation (but ideally, we will maintain just one, the one 
> that fits better in Pharo). 
> Again… this are just ideas for the future :)
> 
> Esteban
> 
> 
> 
>> On 24 Nov 2014, at 23:23, Nicolai Hess <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 2014-11-24 20:41 GMT+01:00 Torsten Bergmann <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> were is NB currently maintained? Only within the image as it is integrated
>> or still with an external config and on STHub?
>> 
>> The reason why I ask: when I load the latest NB-Core package
>> from STHub it looks like this one is outdated and back from Pharo3 day
>> (trying to load it gives problems from changes in Pharo 4).
>> 
>> So it looks like NB was originally developed external using STHub, then 
>> integrated
>> into standard image and now it is only internally in-image managed. OK.
>> 
>> But the future goal is as far as I understood to manage more and
>> more packages using external configs again.
>> 
>> What is the status and future plan for NB? Will the repo get
>> synchronized? Or will it stay internal only?
>> 
>> Thx
>> T.
>> 
>> 
>> I was about to ask the same question for Athens, the packages in pharo4 and 
>> sthub diverge.
>> I can merge the sthub and pharo4 version for Athens (and mabe NB), I just 
>> don't know what
>> is the plan for the feauture, manage packages for Athens and NB in the image 
>> or on sthub.
>> 
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