Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions

[Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-dev]

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Kilon,
I can perfectly understand that "not everything has to be in the image" and 
that, ultimately, someone has to maintain that code.  The only problem I have 
with the removal of that theme is that more than 55% of users are running some 
flavor of Windows.  It's not as if someone would ask for an OS/2 or a Motif UI 
theme!  There are *LOTS* of people on Windows still !
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      From: kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com>
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 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 9:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions
   



"The point is, every piece of code needs to be written and maintained which 
takes time and energy from other activities."

I completely agree with you. I have zero issues of main pharo developers 
kicking out libraries that are not so much used by pharo users. Those libraries 
are perfectly capable of existing as third party. 

I also love the plan to make pharo modular, remove libraries from inside and 
make it easy to install. This way each one of us can easily make an image 
tailor made for his/her needs. Each pharo user is an individual with individual 
needs. 

Installing libraries is dead easy with the Configuration Browser , including 
their dependencies , just one click away. 

Of course that leaves whos going to maintain that stuff.  I agree with Marcus 
here, "you want it in pharo , code it".The theme support in Pharo is very 
powerful , I know because I created my own custom blue theme and a tool to 
allow easy customization of theme colors with zero coding (Nireas). I expected 
that by now Nireas would be replaced by another way more powerful theme manager 
but it has not. Why ? Not because my theme manager is very good, but because 
the community is just too small. I love using my blue theme and fits perfect to 
my taste and needs ;) 

In the end no code can be more personal than the code you create.

There is no need for everything to exist inside the image , great things can 
exist outside too. All it needs people who really care about pharo by coding 
for it. 


  

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