If you want to argue about usage, this is probably more appropriate http://strawpoll.me/4001583/r (though Linux numbers are in reallity somewhat lower due to desktop+server)
The bottom line is: nobody (from ~third of Pharo users) really cared until now so the options I see: 1. open an issue in Pharo issue tracker 2. a) write it yourself, or 2. b) ask someone who is interested in themes to write it If nothing fundamental changed in theming in Pharo 4, than moving the buttons around should take an evening with bottle of beer at most. If you want it in the default theme but customizable, that may take more, but it would be interesting. If you want the whole Windows theme than that may be a bit more. Peter On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 03 Apr 2015, at 15:57, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-dev < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Date: 3 Apr 2015 15:53:56 CEST > > From: Benoit St-Jean <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: Benoit St-Jean <[email protected]> > > To: Pharo Development List <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions > > > > > > Kilon, > > > > I can perfectly understand that "not everything has to be in the image" > and that, ultimately, someone has to maintain that code. The only problem > I have with the removal of that theme is that more than 55% of users are > running some flavor of Windows. It's not as if someone would ask for an > OS/2 or a Motif UI theme! There are *LOTS* of people on Windows still ! > > There is no such thing as *one* Windows look (or version), there are many: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows#Usage_share > > We simply cannot maintain them, nor do we want to. > > Note that we do not maintain any other platform specific look&feels. > > > ----------------- > > Benoit St-Jean > > Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean > > Twitter: @BenLeChialeux > > Pinterest: benoitstjean > > IRC: lamneth > > Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com > > "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero". (A. Einstein) > > > > From: kilon alios <[email protected]> > > To: Pharo Development List <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 9:25 AM > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions > > > > > > > > > > "The point is, every piece of code needs to be written and maintained > which takes time and energy from other activities." > > > > > > I completely agree with you. I have zero issues of main pharo developers > kicking out libraries that are not so much used by pharo users. Those > libraries are perfectly capable of existing as third party. > > > > I also love the plan to make pharo modular, remove libraries from inside > and make it easy to install. This way each one of us can easily make an > image tailor made for his/her needs. Each pharo user is an individual with > individual needs. > > > > Installing libraries is dead easy with the Configuration Browser , > including their dependencies , just one click away. > > > > Of course that leaves whos going to maintain that stuff. I agree with > Marcus here, "you want it in pharo , code it".The theme support in Pharo is > very powerful , I know because I created my own custom blue theme and a > tool to allow easy customization of theme colors with zero coding (Nireas). > I expected that by now Nireas would be replaced by another way more > powerful theme manager but it has not. Why ? Not because my theme manager > is very good, but because the community is just too small. I love using my > blue theme and fits perfect to my taste and needs ;) > > > > In the end no code can be more personal than the code you create. > > > > There is no need for everything to exist inside the image , great things > can exist outside too. All it needs people who really care about pharo by > coding for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > >
