>>>> -----Message d'origine----- >>>> De : Pharo-dev [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de >>>> Ben Coman >>>> Envoyé : lundi 17 août 2015 15:52 >>>> À : Pharo Development List >>>> Objet : [Pharo-dev] World Menu associated mouse click >>>> >>>> A while back on reddit someone complained about the World Menu being >>>> associated with left-mouse-click. I have come to agree. The World Menu >>>> provides the actions available in the context of the World, i.e. >>>> the World's context-menu - but its not invoked by the usual convention >>>> for context menus, which is the right-mouse-click. >>>> >>>> By way of example, in a fresh image and open one Playground. >>>> >>>> * First right-click the Playground. Up comes the Playground's >>>> context-menu as expected per industry wide conventions. >>>> >>>> * Then right-click the background. Doh! Its not consistent, thats not >>>> the World's context-menu. "WTH is that?" says a newbie in surprise. >>>> (Btw, who uses that list of open windows ? I *never* do and might >>>> suggest that function be moved to a meta-mouse-click.) >>>> >>>> So can we discuss changing the World Menu to be invoked by the >>>> context-click (i.e. right-click) ? >>>> >>>> cheers -ben
>>> 2015-08-17 16:07 GMT+02:00 Blondeau Vincent >>> <[email protected]>: >>>> There is a setting to have this consistence (deactivated by default): >>>> Appearance>Desktop>Invert right click on world menu in Linux and Windows >>>> >>>> By the way, the buttons are not inverted under Mac (conventional). >>>> >>>> I agree that the context click should open the world menu by default.. >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Nicolai Hess <[email protected]> wrote: >>> +1 > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 7:19 PM Peter Uhnák <[email protected]> wrote: >> Btw in Bloc this has already been changed. > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <[email protected]> > wrote: >> If you are not ready to get out of your comfort zone , you wont be using >> Smalltalk. Sure change it to left click, but in the end it wont make much of >> a difference. Smalltalk is for a specific kind of people that are looking >> for a fresh approach to coding. For everyone else there is like a ton of >> languages that recycle old recipes and keep things familiar. On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Peter Uhnák <[email protected]> wrote: > importantly there's difference between "keeping things familiar with the > universe (other OS/langs/...)" and "being internally consistent" (every > menu except for the world menu is opened with right/yellow button). On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <[email protected]> wrote: > If you are not ready to get out of your comfort zone , you wont be using > Smalltalk. Sure change it to left click, but in the end it wont make much of > a difference. Smalltalk is for a specific kind of people that are looking > for a fresh approach to coding. For everyone else there is like a ton of > languages that recycle old recipes and keep things familiar. Of course I subscribe to the view of our uniqueness :) - but its not sufficient as the only argument. We should not be complacent to use that as a crutch to keep things the way they have always been because that is "our" comfort zone. cheers -ben
