I don't think this list is the proper place for discussing politics. So can we please not do it?
thanks, Norbert > Am 22.12.2016 um 11:20 schrieb Dimitris Chloupis <[email protected]>: > > I completely agree with you Phil, the real tragedy is this Berlin tragedy > will be the excuse to funnel billion of euros into a war that will bring zero > results , billions that could be invested not only to save 30 or even a > thousand lives but millions of lives. > > To talk about regression is to not be aware of how extremely lucky and > privileged we are to live in a time that experts call "the long peace" . > Never in the recorded human history there were so few wars worldwide and as > much poverty and it continuously gets better even in this time of global > economic crisis. > > As a matter of fact the biggest problems we face are the result of this long > peace and prosperity . Top ones being over population and climate change. > > In both cases of positives and negative we experience the profound effects of > exponential growth. This crazy curve of constant growth that start small and > much later increases in insane rates which has massive positive and negative > effects. Its a crazy ride and will only get massively more crazy soon enough, > especially now with the coming of the AI revolution. > > I wonder the role Pharo will play in all this :) > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 1:56 AM [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > Regression? Consider that 1 human on 5 is under the poverty line vs 1 on 2 > not so many years ago and that a large percentage of the human population has > been schooled in elementary matters (again, not the case not so far in the > past). > > That is a massive improvement! > > Despite terrorist casualties, which compared to flu or car crashes, or even > toddlers shooting relatives with guns is two orders of magnitude less, we > live in the safest environment we have ever had. Not a regression at all. > > http://www.fayard.fr/histoire-du-terrorisme-9782213687308 > <http://www.fayard.fr/histoire-du-terrorisme-9782213687308> has a pretty > useful background on their logic. Terrorism is the weapon of the weak in > terms of fighting force, otherwise they would engage in a full on war to > conquer the territory. > > The psychological impact is just out of proportions vs the number of > casualties. > > I got rammed into by a truck last week and could have been killed. That's > just a mundane occurence that statistically kills more people than any > terrorist attack would. > > Ref: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_de_la_route_en_France > <https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_de_la_route_en_France> "Et depuis > 1945, les chiffres sont aussi édifiants, car il faut parler d'au moins 500 > 000 morts, soit l'équivalent d'un grand conflit majeur, ou l'équivalent des > pertes humaines subies en France lors de la Seconde Guerre mondiale." > > Not to mention domestic accidents: "Chaque année en France, près de 20 000 > personnes décèdent dans un accident domestique, c'est trois fois plus que sur > la route."" Plus de la moitié des accidents de la vie courante concerne des > enfants de 0 à 16 ans. Et malgré les progrès accomplis depuis les années 80, > c'est pour eux une des principales causes de décès prématurés. Produits > ménagers ou médicaments accessibles, chaise haute non sanglée, table à langer > instable. en quelques minutes, la vie peut tourner au drame. Il faut savoir > que chez les tout-petits, c'est à l'intérieur de la maison que se situe le > danger" > > Best course of action is to keep on trucking and be a productive element of > society. No matter what. YOLO after all. > > Phil > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:44 PM, stepharong <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Indeed, immensely sad. Humanity is under regression. > When you see that in Mali they destroyed the oldest world library. > What sadden me the most is that in case of attacks in France, these attacks > were made by brainwashed french > citezen against french citizen contrary to what ugly "politician" would like > that we think. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Berlin_attack > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Berlin_attack> > > It is really sad that these things happen, that so many innocent people are > killed and hurt. It makes me even more sad that I seem to be getting used to > this, that should not be the case, at all. > > Sven > > > > > -- > Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > <http://www.opera.com/mail/> > >
