Stef, That is very useful. I'd certainly like to see code written w Pharo running on Redline :)
- James Sent from my Commodore 64 > On 1 Jan 2017, at 1:21 am, Stephane Ducasse <[email protected]> wrote: > > James, > > Nice to hear that you are still pushing. I would love to be able to developed > in Pharo and deployed on red. > Noury is working on the same scenario for PharoJS. > > May be we should organise a skype with Guille because we can use his > infrastructure (hespel) to create out of Pharo automatically > a kernel for Red. > > Guille has an infrastructure Hespel (check his phd) to > - bootstrap different kernels such as Candlelight, microsqueak.. > - tailor application (you give a seed expression and it collects all the > mandatory methods and classes) probably like spoon > > He bootstrapped different small kernels during his phd. > In tornado the tailoring version of Hespel we can create imae that are as > small as 12k :) > > We put a list of the class in a techreport. https://hal.inria.fr/hal-00996908 > > In Pharo 70 we will use in production a bootstrap kernel: basically Pharo > core with some better handled mechanisms (such as the startup) > We should remove the traits from class/metaclasses to gain some space. > Now our goal for this version is not to have the smallest core but a full > process based on a bootstrap image. > We shuffled/repackaged many classes around and we will continue to cut > spurious dependencies. > > Stef > > > > >> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:50 PM, James Ladd <[email protected]> wrote: >> I'll check it out. >> The version I remember was black n white. >> >> >> Sent from my Commodore 64 >> >> > On 31 Dec 2016, at 9:04 pm, Stefan Marr <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Hi James: >> > >> >> On 30 Dec 2016, at 22:50, James Ladd <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> I even tried to find the old Potatoe Smalltalk which was a port of an old >> >> Smalltalk-80 image as it had a working ide and yet the smallest count of >> >> classes. >> > >> > Did you find it? >> > https://news.squeak.org/2008/07/07/potato-version-of-jsqueak-from-hpi/ >> > >> > Best regards >> > Stefan >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Stefan Marr >> > Johannes Kepler Universität Linz >> > http://stefan-marr.de/research/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >
