… and this is why even small additions should not be included in frozen 
versions… you never know how it will impact others… and suddenly you have a 
full chain of changes with unpredictable impacts. 

Esteban

> On 6 Mar 2017, at 08:20, Aliaksei Syrel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In order to make Sublimish theme possible there are some important changes to 
> gt morphic brick themer, spotter and probably other gt tools. Hardcoded color 
> and style values were already considered as a serious issue and a bug.
> 
> Imho, we should integrate at least fixes on GT side :)
> 
> Thanks, Phil! Great job :)
> Alex
> 
> On Mar 6, 2017 07:46, "Esteban Lorenzano" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> On 6 Mar 2017, at 07:17, Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> First, let me be clear: I *like* sublimish theme (not for my use, but I like 
>> it), and I like (a lot) the windows list on spotter, and I like in general 
>> all this new additions. 
> 
> By the way, even if I like it, I would not have integrated SublimishTheme. 
> For same reason I didn’t integrated DarkMetalTheme: My idea is to have just 
> two themes *in image*: one white, one dark, and allow people to install other 
> themes from catalog. 
> 
> Why? Because each class inside image becomes our responsibility and then a 
> maintainability issue. With themes in particular already happened that 
> existing themes became abandonware inside the image and we needed to clean 
> up, not without problems. 
> 
> cheers, 
> Esteban
> 
> ps: which means also yes: that issue got integrated because I failed to 
> control the flow of issues...
> 
>> 
>> And I know, most of those additions are usability enhancements so a good 
>> thing.
>> 
>> But can you guys stop pushing new features into a (in theory) frozen version?
>> 
>> Pharo 7 will arrive soon… *if* we can fix all things missing. If I can 
>> suggest an orientation, it would be good, for those that use linux and mac 
>> (windows is not ready), to test and help fix 64bits version. 
>> 
>> There are still plenty of bugs to fix there, like for example why Spotter 
>> does not shows search line. 
>> 
>> Last week I added support to Athens and SDL2 in 64bits but that meant: 
>> 
>> - some important changes in UFFI
>> - discover something that seems is failing on callbacks for Cairo (no idea 
>> if it is a callbacks problem or an image problem that causes a callback 
>> problem).
>> 
>> I would say all this and the fact we are working on 64bits in general 
>> deserves a lot of testing. 
>> 
>> I will add links in Pharo page to download 64bits (I’m at the train now), 
>> but in the mean time you can download all from here: 
>> 
>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip 
>> <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip>
>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip 
>> <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip> (linux)
>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip 
>> <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip> (mac)
>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip 
>> <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip> (in case you need them)
>> 
>> cheers, 
>> Esteban
> 

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