did you publish the blue theme as an autonomous package? On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <[email protected]> wrote:
> Me too, even my blue theme is nothing more than a customization of dark > theme. Plus dark theme is based on darcula dark theme which is by far the > most popular dark theme out there. > On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 at 14:27, Stephane Ducasse <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> clement esteban is using the dark theme since several years!!!! >> phil too. >> No new code! >> >> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 12:35 AM, Clément Bera <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Isn't a couple days before release a bit late to change the default >>> theme ? Aren't we in feature freeze mode ? >>> >>> If for marketing it makes sense to switch to the dark theme, then let's >>> switch to dark theme. But why not switching for Pharo 7 instead ? >>> Instability is bad for marketing anyway, isn't it ? >>> >>> I don't mind for myself, I will always switch back with user settings to >>> the light theme it's more about the general perception of Pharo stability. >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 11:31 AM, [email protected] <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Bah, I made GTSpotter dark theme work with SublimishTheme and got the >>>> "yeah, for Pharo7". >>>> >>>> It is pissing me off but what can I say, just follow what is released. >>>> >>>> Compare Pharo 1 and Pharo 6. Worlds apart. I hope this continues. >>>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I vote for a voting system for these kind of changes. I cannot say it >>>>> more clearly, and I don't know why is asking for a voting system negative? >>>>> >>>>> We all have problems. In the meantime you will make all the changes >>>>> you like to do, and I will continue working on my own way, until I find >>>>> there is more voice for the "small minority". >>>>> >>>>> 2017-04-15 9:30 GMT-03:00 Stephane Ducasse <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Hernan >>>>>> >>>>>> Why are you always so negative? Do you think that this is easy? >>>>>> >>>>>> Inria paid Denis to build a remote tool suite for ***research >>>>>> purpose*** and we discovered that a new remote invocation framework was >>>>>> needed and that they were far too many discussions between the model and >>>>>> the view. >>>>>> Denis proposed to build a new browser (and it was not in our plans) >>>>>> and we decided that we cannot do it otherwise. >>>>>> We could keep this tool for us but we share it with the community. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you want another example? >>>>>> I asked christopher to build versionner and he discovered that he >>>>>> cannot script well enough the model. And versionner was made >>>>>> for everybody. Now with git we will have to revise it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you want another example? >>>>>> Iceberg we payed nicolas passerini to analyse the situation and to >>>>>> build a system that other people >>>>>> can use it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you want another example? >>>>>> Esteban got in his face the FFI problem: you see Spur arrives and FFI >>>>>> nabive boost does not so what do we do? >>>>>> He worked like a mad (and it was not planned because we thought that >>>>>> igor would adpta NB to spur then to 64 bits). >>>>>> And the FFI is for everbody. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you want another example? >>>>>> We spent one year with pavel, guillermo and christophe to make sure >>>>>> that we can make sure that the three yars >>>>>> effort of the phd of guillermo on bootstrap are not lost. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you want more? >>>>>> All my books are open-source? Do you know how much time I take to >>>>>> write a book? >>>>>> >>>>>> I spent 8 months designing a mooc and do you know how much I earned >>>>>> doing it: 3000 Euros ( so I will make the computation to know how much >>>>>> per >>>>>> hour I lost) and the mooc is free. >>>>>> >>>>>> May be all these examples have no value for you. But for me they >>>>>> have. >>>>>> >>>>>> So you see you can piss on us if it makes you feeling better, and you >>>>>> can rant in your corner. >>>>>> But this is not the vision I have about a community because we are >>>>>> sharing all the things that we are doing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2017-04-14 8:44 GMT-03:00 Denis Kudriashov <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2017-04-14 13:27 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also I am really wondering that this decision was not publicly >>>>>>>>> discussed. We should vote for such kind of changes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> no, this is not how it works. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yes, it is how it could work :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Current approach is not bad for technical choices because it is >>>>>>>> difficult to make everybody evolved in particular technical topic. >>>>>>>> But look&feel is different. You just open Pharo and have impression >>>>>>>> is it looks good or not. Voting can work here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would forget about it. I stopped waiting for votes long time ago >>>>>>> in this community. Also I decided to stop contributing to external >>>>>>> projects >>>>>>> (including reporting bugs) because who knows which tool (browser, >>>>>>> morphic, >>>>>>> etc) the board would like to add/remove tomorrow. I will not invest my >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> fixing tools who knows what's the plan on them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The best you can do is to work in the dark and adapt your stuff with >>>>>>> each new Pharo version. >>>>>>> Of course anyone with enough time/money could fork a new more >>>>>>> democratic Pharo ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hernán >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>
