On Thu, 11 May 2017 11:34:47 +0200, Cl?ment Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On   Wed,  May   10,  2017   at  8:12   PM,  Esteban   A.  Maringolo
> <emaring...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 2017-05-10 13:38 GMT-03:00  Cl?ment Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com>:
> > >  On  Wed, May  10,  2017  at 5:28  PM,  Esteban  A. Maringolo  <
> > emaring...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> If it is a plug-in, why does it need VM recompilation?
> > > Internal plugins require VM recompilation. Only external plugins
> > > do not.
> > It was  more of a  semantic question, I'd  expect a plug-in  to be
> > that, pluggable, as you say external  plugins are.  Or what is the
> > "pluggability" of such plugins?
> >
>  I  would say  there is  3 levels  of pluggability:  1 non  optional
> internal plugin,  pluggable because  it can  be replaced  by another
> internal plugin  implementing the same  API at VM  compilation time.
> Used  for modularity  of specific  aspects  of the  VM.  2  optional
> internal  plugin, pluggable  because it  can  be removed  / added  /
> replaced at  VM compilation time.  Used to improve  performance over
> external plugin  or to access  VM functions not exposed  to external
> plugins.  3 external  plugin, pluggable because it can  be removed /
> added  / replaced  after  the VM  is compiled.  Used  for all  other
> plugins.
>  So they're all pluggable in some way.
>
I'm on this vital industry for 45+ years and I already learned that words and 
names have usages and except when standarized via certains bodies aimed 
specifically the meaning can vary even within the same realm of the art.

That written, and without attempting to start a semantic discussion, however 
feeling a contribution may be useful, I would say that the 'levels' one and two 
described above would better called "modules" instead of plugins.

In my way of understanding this non mother tongue "compile time plugins" seem 
to be more a figure of speech than the offering of 'plugability' which plugins 
offer, or perhaps, in my humble perception ought to offer.

Also, I think it would be less surprising for most people when exposed to the 
subject (module == compiling, plugin == run time).

Just my 0,0199999....

--
Cesar Rabak
 

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