Hi Cesar,
> On May 11, 2017, at 12:10 PM, csra...@bol.com.br wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 May 2017 11:34:47 +0200, Cl?ment Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:12 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo
>> <emaring...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 2017-05-10 13:38 GMT-03:00 Cl?ment Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com>:
>>>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <
>>> emaring...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> If it is a plug-in, why does it need VM recompilation?
>>>> Internal plugins require VM recompilation. Only external plugins
>>>> do not.
>>> It was more of a semantic question, I'd expect a plug-in to be
>>> that, pluggable, as you say external plugins are. Or what is the
>>> "pluggability" of such plugins?
>>>
>> I would say there is 3 levels of pluggability: 1 non optional
>> internal plugin, pluggable because it can be replaced by another
>> internal plugin implementing the same API at VM compilation time.
>> Used for modularity of specific aspects of the VM. 2 optional
>> internal plugin, pluggable because it can be removed / added /
>> replaced at VM compilation time. Used to improve performance over
>> external plugin or to access VM functions not exposed to external
>> plugins. 3 external plugin, pluggable because it can be removed /
>> added / replaced after the VM is compiled. Used for all other
>> plugins.
>> So they're all pluggable in some way.
>>
> I'm on this vital industry for 45+ years and I already learned that words and
> names have usages and except when standarized via certains bodies aimed
> specifically the meaning can vary even within the same realm of the art.
>
> That written, and without attempting to start a semantic discussion, however
> feeling a contribution may be useful, I would say that the 'levels' one and
> two described above would better called "modules" instead of plugins.
>
> In my way of understanding this non mother tongue "compile time plugins" seem
> to be more a figure of speech than the offering of 'plugability' which
> plugins offer, or perhaps, in my humble perception ought to offer.
>
> Also, I think it would be less surprising for most people when exposed to the
> subject (module == compiling, plugin == run time).
+1. I think the system designers agreed with you because the way to find out
what plugins are available is
Smalltalk listLoadedModules
> Just my 0,0199999....
>
> --
> Cesar Rabak
_,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)
